Ron 10 #26 October 26, 2011 QuoteOutside of nostalgic purposes why do we still use them? There is no better learning tool than you debriefing your own jump on paper. QuoteI can figure out how to fake a written log entry with relative ease, but I have no idea how to fake a Pro-track entry. Very easy to do. QuoteAnd they tend to have much better recall than the mind’s eye. Yet the Pro-track will not rmind you of what the dive was, how you did, who was on it, and what you can do to be better next time."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xander 0 #27 October 26, 2011 Quote There is no better learning tool than you debriefing your own jump on paper. Definitely, the mind has its way to sugar coat things. But actually putting it into words and on paper brings reality out. The same way with being love sick. Thinking about it your confused and disorientated, write it down and read your situation back to yourself in 3rd person makes it much clearer! Maybe a bad comparison What does everyone use paper wise to log? Just a small A5 size pad or something? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peek 21 #28 October 27, 2011 QuoteWhat does everyone use paper wise to log? Just a small A5 size pad or something? Sure, something just like that. I use spiral-bound index cards, which are thicker than just paper. 2 dollars at the business supply store. The cards are meant to be torn out on the perforation, but if you don't tear them out you have a logbook. I slap my USPA logo or Pro sticker on it and I have a cheap but cool logbook. Well, at least I think it is cool. It's definitely cheap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #29 October 27, 2011 Quote Yep, thats why I decided to make an excel spreadsheet. so I can just do a word search instead of looking through all those books...however I STILL keep and update the handwritten books ,too. I'm still in the diary-phase. When I JM a load, I especially like to have one of my students sign off the jump. If I'm feeling particularly nasty I'll even ask them for feedback. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain_stan 0 #30 October 27, 2011 QuoteWhat does everyone use paper wise to log? Just a small A5 size pad or something? I bought a hard-bound, horizontally ruled personal journal at a book store one time. I made a template and hand-drew in some vertical lines to delineate date, jump #, etc. I logged 1000 jumps in that one. Now I'm using a small binder that looks like a personal planner, complete with external clasp and internal pen-holder + pockets for ID, etc. It's covered in black Cordura and hold 4x6" loose-leaf sheets which I print-out by computer, cut w/ a paper cutter, and punch w/ 6 holes per sheet. At the end of every year, I take out all the pages, clip them together for storage, and fill it with more blank sheets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #31 October 27, 2011 For me personally I loathe writing and even when I do attempt to its barely legible anyhow. I have therefore chosen the Iphone app logbook which you still can get signatures as well. This way its much more accurate, easy to read, allows you to see the exact amount of FF time combined or from a certain jump. This way its quicker to log by typing and more precise! Just be sure to back up the data and have a duplicateFor info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doog 0 #32 October 27, 2011 G'dayhow'sshegoinganyway... I haven't read all the posts on this so it may have been touched on already. I am not sure how it works in the States but I am a Certificate Administrator (now called Skydiving School Examiner) in Canada. The are certain types of jumps, degrees of accuracy etc that are required for different license levels. If it ain't written in a log book it didn't happen and if it wasn't signed off by a person with the correct CoP or rating it doesn't count. Log em all. Put in the details that you may need for future ratings. If you think you won't want to be a coach or instructor or tandem master, or big way jumper, then by all means don't log. But you'll be sooorrrryyyyy.DOOG Muff 846 All you people are here to make sure I have a good time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreefdiver 0 #33 October 29, 2011 I haven't gotten a signature since I got my D license. I do keep a written log of all my jumps as well as the one in my Neptune and the Skydiving app on my iPhone.DS#727, DB Cooper #41, POPS #11065, SCR #13183, FA #2125, SCS #8306, HALO #309 SRA #5930 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
