Ever catch something during a pin check?

[hookitt 1]

Would you push it back into place now that you have more experience? Would you ask someone else to?

My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto

[Frenchy68 0]

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Would you push it back into place now that you have more experience?

No. I wouldn't know what made it come "up", and I am not a rigger. I'm not crazy about quick fixes at 11,000ft.

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Would you ask someone else to?

Yes. A rigger. On the ground.

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

[billvon 2,998]

>Would you push it back into place now that you have more experience?

Just a note - such things may or may not be fixable in the plane. But whatever you do, NEVER attempt such fixes when the door is open at all, or in an aircraft without a working, manually securable door. In other words, don't try this in a CASA on jump run, because you may manage to pop the reserve just as the pilot starts opening the door.

[JohnMitchell 16]

I had a freefall student put on her pop-top front mount reserve (okay, it's been a few years) that still had the rigger temp pins in it. I took it off to inspect it and "Voila". That would have been a bad one.

Caught 2 misrouted chest straps on the plane. I still got a hundred dollar bill waiting for the jumper that finds me on the plane with one of those.

As tandem instructors we watch each other a lot. My wife restuffed a drougue into the pouch for one TM when it came out while sliding down the bench to the door.

Had another TM catch my pushed through 3-ring on the plane, halfway to altitude. Now I double check those on the plane, too.

Knew a JM who killed a student years back by doing a poor pincheck.

It pays to look around.

[hookitt 1]

Most of these should have been found before boarding the aircraft but here's some of what I've noticed in the air. Multiple dropzones.

Reserve pin partially seated (more than once). Yes I pushed them back in place given the circumstances.

Twisted harness: 2 weeks ago. I think that's the second and possibly 3rd.

Numerous ripcord handles coming out of the pocket on the harness. (on the ground and in the plane)

Chest straps not routed correctly: Found both on the ground, and in the airplane.

Main pilot chutes falling out of the pouch.

Main pins partially seated

RSL's incorrectly routed.

Cutaway handles turned inward behind the main lift web.

There's probably more.... but my all time favorite...

I ran to the plane making a back to back load and hopped on last . A tandem was getting out at 9 grand instead of 15. We gave the tandem room to tighten up and the person who was sitting in front of the tandem student moved aside. The tandem master slid the elastic keeper over to the loose end of the chest strap (that's when he first came into view). The student chest strap was not routed correctly.

Many skydivers choose to know very little about the equipment they wear. Many problems go unseen or in disrepair far to long. A chest strap should be noticed at a glance. Cutaway and reserve handles should be noticed at a glance as well. Pilot chutes sometimes get pushed out, or snagged but often it's poor maintainance.

The harness twist should have never made it on the plane. The Tandem student... well, there's simply no excuse for that one. A ramp check prior to boarding, or a non complacent gear check from the instructor, anything. If the harness comes off of you on deployment, there are no more handles in reach to complete any additional emergency procedures.

Additionally. if you notice a large harness on a smaller framed person, at least tie the leg straps together.

... what else... ?

My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto

[Hooknswoop 19]

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I had a freefall student put on her pop-top front mount reserve (okay, it's been a few years) that still had the rigger temp pins in it. I took it off to inspect it and "Voila". That would have been a bad one.

Caught 2 misrouted chest straps on the plane. I still got a hundred dollar bill waiting for the jumper that finds me on the plane with one of those.Cool

As tandem instructors we watch each other a lot. My wife restuffed a drougue into the pouch for one TM when it came out while sliding down the bench to the door.

Had another TM catch my pushed through 3-ring on the plane, halfway to altitude. Now I double check those on the plane, too.

All of those could have been caught by the jumper. I'm looking for things that only could have been caught by a pin check.

Derek

[AndyMan 7]

I have once further inserted a main pin. It probably would have been fine had I done nothing.

Since what I did probably didn't affect any outcomes, I voted "no" in the poll.

Despite that, I wouldn't want to suggest that there is little value in jump-run pin checks. There's HUGE value in jump-run pin checks, because most of the things I find are things that should have been checked on the ground.

I think finding errors on jumprun - even "safe" errors - like a cocked pilot chute that's showing white in the indicator window - is a good kick in the butt for people to do better gear checks on the ground.

I've never made a life-saving correction. I've made many "you should have checked your gear on the ground" fixes.

_Am

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