CloudyHead 0 #1 August 24, 2011 Is this legal, or could it be considered tax evasion? It seems like this would be a very efficient way to get some jumps in! I can't pack parachutes yet, but give me a shovel and i'll work my ass in the heat just for a few jump tickets anyone ever have experience doing work at a DZ that didn't involve being an experienced skydiver? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver604 0 #2 August 24, 2011 ssshhhhh !! What Revenue Canada doesn't know won't hurt you "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 August 25, 2011 I haven't seen an actual honest-to-god paper jump ticket since 2005, but I have seen DZ's give you a jump with the equivalent dollar amount on your computerized account for work around the DZ. Think about this, though. The job you're doing, they could pay someone minimum wage to do and how much a lift ticket costs. Lets be generous and say $8 an hour. Lets say $22 for a standard jump. So you're looking at 3 hours of work. Lets say $200 for a student jump of some sort, so now you're looking at 25 hours of work. Too often I've seen this setup attempted by someone who thinks that if they straighten the packing mat up, sweep the hanger and help catch a few tandems they've earned a jump. Most DZOs I know see it differently.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudyHead 0 #4 August 25, 2011 i guess whether or not its a good deal is subjective... i still find 3 hours of work per jump to be very worthwhile. If I can earn a couple jumps in a day while working around people who are enjoying life to the fullest, what more could i want? I could spend a whole summer doing that.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #5 August 25, 2011 Quote Is this legal, or could it be considered tax evasion? It seems like this would be a very efficient way to get some jumps in! I can't pack parachutes yet, but give me a shovel and i'll work my ass in the heat just for a few jump tickets anyone ever have experience doing work at a DZ that didn't involve being an experienced skydiver? There ya go, folks. Noobie dood just put the Canadian version of the IRS into high gear. CloudyHead, STFU!Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudyHead 0 #6 August 25, 2011 should i delete this thread? i didn't mean to jeopardize anything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudyHead 0 #7 August 25, 2011 fuck i hate being such a noob, to be honest.. some day, motherfuckers... some day... mods please delete this thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #8 August 25, 2011 Quote Is this legal, or could it be considered tax evasion? It seems like this would be a very efficient way to get some jumps in! I can't pack parachutes yet, but give me a shovel and i'll work my ass in the heat just for a few jump tickets anyone ever have experience doing work at a DZ that didn't involve being an experienced skydiver? I get paid a jump for every video I do. Ofcourse, I have to use said jump to do the video. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #9 August 25, 2011 Income is income... it doesn't matter if you are paid in Gold bars... Canadian Dollars... or Jumps. If you receive something of value, in exchange for performing a service, you just earned income... and you should place a value on the item received and report it. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #10 August 25, 2011 Quote Income is income... it doesn't matter if you are paid in Gold bars... Canadian Dollars... or Jumps. If you receive something of value, in exchange for performing a service, you just earned income... and you should place a value on the item received and report it. Yeah...that's gonna happen...sure it is.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #11 August 25, 2011 I am just giving you my by the book tax accountant anwser... what you do with it is up to you. Circular 230 Bullshit: "ANY TAX ADVICE IN THIS COMMUNICATION IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN BY TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A CLIENT OR ANY OTHER PERSON OR ENTITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF (i) AVOIDING PENALTIES THAT MAY BE IMPOSED ON ANY TAXPAYER OR (ii) PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING TO ANOTHER PARTY ANY MATTERS ADDRESSED HEREIN. *** Blah blah blah. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #12 August 26, 2011 Cloudy head, The point on the map on your profile indicates you jump at Eden North. If you have 23 jumps I highly doubt you cannot pack. If you cannot it is because you have not tried to learn. It takes one weekend of really trying to get your packing endorsement and this will pay you far better than anything else you can do on the DZ right now. As for working for jump Tx, Lyal always pays better if you take it out in trade rather than cash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #13 August 26, 2011 QuoteIt takes one weekend of really trying to get your packing endorsement and this will pay you far better than anything else you can do on the DZ right now. What he said. Assuming packing isn't a closed shop at your DZ then it's by far your best bet to earn 'proper' money. It's very hard work, but once you get up to speed a busy day at a decent-sized DZ can earn you hundreds of dollars - or more jump tickets than you can use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #14 August 26, 2011 QuoteIncome is income... it doesn't matter if you are paid in Gold bars... Canadian Dollars... or Jumps. If you receive something of value, in exchange for performing a service, you just earned income... and you should place a value on the item received and report it. ***That's exactly what Captain America would say. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DougH 270 #15 August 26, 2011 "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jsaxton 0 #16 August 28, 2011 Lodi still uses paper tickets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aeroflyer 0 #17 August 29, 2011 I got paper tickets at the abbotsford boogie.. annoying because you can loose them, I like the accounts thing better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #18 August 29, 2011 QuoteI got paper tickets at the abbotsford boogie.. annoying because you can loose them, I like the accounts thing better Computer accounts can get screwed up too. At least with paper tickets, they are under your own control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pilot-one 0 #19 August 31, 2011 Quote Income is income... it doesn't matter if you are paid in Gold bars... Canadian Dollars... or Jumps. If you receive something of value, in exchange for performing a service, you just earned income... and you should place a value on the item received and report it. It really is more a violation of the employer. A by the hour worker is an employee. By not paying in money the employer is avoiding employer taxes. To answer the OPs question it is not legal in the US. Wages are required to be paid in funds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andrewwhyte 1 #20 August 31, 2011 Since the OP is not in the US it does not answer his question at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
DougH 270 #15 August 26, 2011 "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #16 August 28, 2011 Lodi still uses paper tickets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aeroflyer 0 #17 August 29, 2011 I got paper tickets at the abbotsford boogie.. annoying because you can loose them, I like the accounts thing better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #18 August 29, 2011 QuoteI got paper tickets at the abbotsford boogie.. annoying because you can loose them, I like the accounts thing better Computer accounts can get screwed up too. At least with paper tickets, they are under your own control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilot-one 0 #19 August 31, 2011 Quote Income is income... it doesn't matter if you are paid in Gold bars... Canadian Dollars... or Jumps. If you receive something of value, in exchange for performing a service, you just earned income... and you should place a value on the item received and report it. It really is more a violation of the employer. A by the hour worker is an employee. By not paying in money the employer is avoiding employer taxes. To answer the OPs question it is not legal in the US. Wages are required to be paid in funds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #20 August 31, 2011 Since the OP is not in the US it does not answer his question at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
