kameraflyr 0 #26 February 3, 2011 If your question is regarding ejection in today's aircraft: This is not longer an issue given that ejection using current Aces II technology ensures (providing manual override is not selected) for pilots to fall attached to the seat from any given altitude (with the assistance of a drouge parachute) to an altitude of 15,000 MSL where automatic man-seat seperation and parachute deployment occurs. This system was introduced for a number of reasons, spinning during deployment being one of them. If not: sorry to waste post space... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #27 February 3, 2011 Quote Meet: JOEY! This is the model I'm gonna run some flow analysis on tomorrow. (I can't fuckin' help it...I'm a nerd, and I carry it around wherever I go.) I remember him: http://www.moviegoods.com/large_detail.asp?http://www.moviegoods.com//Assets/product_images/1020/143828.1020.A.jpg I've been laid up sick for a few days, now. Man, am I bored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #28 February 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote "...a man being sponsored by Red Bull, is being helped by Joe Kittinger..." That's surprising. Joey has stated he is often reached out to for help in replicating his famous dive, but he never responds. He stated he doesn't want to be involved if someone else dies (again) trying to do the jump. Something must have changed his mind. $$$$ I don't think so. He's retired, pensioned, & well-entrenched in his belief system. My guess would be because Red Bull was bringing so much to the table on this one. W/RB's substantial resources, this was going to be a first class effort. He probably felt that w/the increased safety of today's equipment. Along w/the technical & financial resources being brought to bear on this. It was the right time & project to come on board with. Twas a pity the plug got pulled on it. Sadly, I'll never get the chance to do it myself. The video quality this time around would've been awesome!! In the late 90’s there was Project TAME sponsored by the Navy and funded by Fox. Kittinger was a consultant (name recognition) on the program. When Fox pulled the funding Kittinger was gone. Yes he was doing it for money. I am not at home at the moment. Later in the week I will try and remember to post some of the test plan to document this. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #29 February 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote "...a man being sponsored by Red Bull, is being helped by Joe Kittinger..." That's surprising. Joey has stated he is often reached out to for help in replicating his famous dive, but he never responds. He stated he doesn't want to be involved if someone else dies (again) trying to do the jump. Something must have changed his mind. $$$$ I don't think so. He's retired, pensioned, & well-entrenched in his belief system. My guess would be because Red Bull was bringing so much to the table on this one. W/RB's substantial resources, this was going to be a first class effort. He probably felt that w/the increased safety of today's equipment. Along w/the technical & financial resources being brought to bear on this. It was the right time & project to come on board with. Twas a pity the plug got pulled on it. Sadly, I'll never get the chance to do it myself. The video quality this time around would've been awesome!! In the late 90’s there was Project TAME sponsored by the Navy and funded by Fox. Kittinger was a consultant (name recognition) on the program. When Fox pulled the funding Kittinger was gone. Yes he was doing it for money. I am not at home at the moment. Later in the week I will try and remember to post some of the test plan to document this. Sparky Well...if that's a fact. Then, I guess so. I like it better my way, though. Don't ya think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #30 February 3, 2011 Quote Well...if that's a fact. Then, I guess so. I like it better my way, though. Don't ya think? Yea, but quite often our hero’s end up a little tarnished. After all they are human. But that in no way diminishes what he did. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #31 February 3, 2011 QuoteWhen Fox pulled the funding Kittinger was gone. Yes he was doing it for money. Did the project continue after funding was withdrawn? If not, I don't understand why he would stay. I feel like I'm missing some information. If the project didn't continue why would you say money was his motivation? Did his withdrawal stop the project?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #32 February 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteWhen Fox pulled the funding Kittinger was gone. Yes he was doing it for money. Did the project continue after funding was withdrawn? If not, I don't understand why he would stay. I feel like I'm missing some information. If the project didn't continue why would you say money was his motivation? Did his withdrawal stop the project? No his withdrawal did not stop the project but it didn’t help it either. The one thing he brought the table was name recognition. Several of the principals continued to work on other avenues of funding for several months at their own expense. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #33 February 5, 2011 QuoteWell...if that's a fact. Then, I guess so. I like it better my way, though. Don't ya think? Thats a fact. Sparky http://www.flickr.com/photos/53825637@N06/5418073778/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/53825637@N06/5418073826/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/53825637@N06/5418073870/My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #34 February 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteWell...if that's a fact. Then, I guess so. I like it better my way, though. Don't ya think? Thats a fact. Sparky http://www.flickr.com/photos/53825637@N06/5418073778/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/53825637@N06/5418073826/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/53825637@N06/5418073870/ Those documents only show me he was on the project. It doesn't prove the rest to me. I wasn't really questioning you on this. I took you @your word. I'm just disappointed in him. When I read about his refusal to become involved in any repeat attempts. It seemed a matter of principle. Ah Well. In my mind. I'll think he did it to get some more cash for his grandchildren. That those efforts would have gone forward without him, anyway. That makes it more palatable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #35 February 6, 2011 Like I said in post #30, "But that in no way diminishes what he did." It was a milestone, a major event in aviation not just skydiving. Sparky QuoteThose documents only show me he was on the project. It doesn't prove the rest to me. That was the main reason I posted them.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
