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peterjames

AFF level1 lost jumpmaster, uncontrollable spin

By peterjames, in Safety and Training

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riggerrob    643

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Maybe I just don't understand, but that sounds kinda sketchy. This guy get sued recently[?] or is he just paranoid about someone having evidence while bringing the safety of his training program into question?



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Dealing with American lawyers will make you paranoid.
Given the thousands of ambulance-chasing lawyers in the USA, it is very dangerous for a DZO to have any video footage - showing his instructors performing any less than perfectly - in the public domain.


Granted, students make the majority of the mistakes on training dives, but any time an instructor is SEEN to perform less than perfectly, he leaves: himself, the DZO, the airplane owner, the airport owner, the guy who owns the landing field, the H/C manufacturer, the main canopy manufacturer, the reserve manufacturer, the AAD manufacturer, the rigger, the local electric company, the local fire-rescue service, the local hospital, etc. vulnerable to lawsuits.

For example - many years ago - a senior videographer at Perris put together a collection of scary videos that he used to show to aspiring vidiots, just to remind them of how dangerous their new past time could be.
That video was "staff only" for many years.
Similarly, Don Yarling used to show similar videos to aspiring AFF Instructors, to show them how quickly a dive can go bad.

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bodypilot1    0

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Sent to you by email directly tonight.

JTL




Got it, thanks. :)
But that spinning student is NOTHING compared to the video I have.

An AFFI should let the student learn to fly by not holding on to them, but letting the student do that many spins without attempting to stop them is just wrong. He should be stopping the spin, giving them signals for body correction, and letting them go again if the postion is corrected, but never just sit there and watch.



Be safe.
Ed
www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com

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EvilLurker    2

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I don't have anything to add to what happened on you AFF jump, but I had a bad spinning problem while I was going for my A license, including a couple of times I ended up on my back trying to recover (which I did prior to pull time). If it's bothering you, or you want to cure it before you have to repeat jumps, go put some time in at a tunnel. It cured my problems completely and I had a lot more peace of mind after that. Good luck and watch your altitude.

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AMax    0

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Consider a sidebuddy where the person being sidebodied just starts tracking as hard as he can



There are 4-way blocks that require spinning a SB. I think learning the mechanics of these blocks could be helpful in situations like you described. I am not an AFFI (hopping to get a rating in the future), but I am really curious to try this. I guess I'll ask my piece partner to track as hard as she can and see if I can stop her by doing something like tail does on ritz-icepick.

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