virgin-burner 1 #26 January 25, 2011 prolly not much! what IS the worst that could happen? at least my buddy is considerate enough to do mostly solo hop n'pops.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #27 January 25, 2011 Actually the guy was at 2.2 at the time. Now 2.5 jumping 84 Russian roullete has nothing to do with skill but just luck. Friend of mine just got ready to jump something at 2.0 wl and this guy has less than 250 jumps. Jump number doesn't mean shit. It is all based on piloting skill. Average jumper will need somewhere around 1000 jumps to feel comfy under 2.1. Wingload. Some may take less, some will never get there.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #28 January 25, 2011 Hope things keep going well for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #29 January 25, 2011 Quoteat a WL@1.8 (almost) a suitable canopy for someone with less than 300 jumps!? Shit on a stick, VB... It is FEWER than 300 jumps, not LESS THAN 300 jumps. If you are talking about something that you can count, USE FEWER. If you're talking about a relative quantity, USE LESS THAN (or MORE THAN) Here's an example: A glass can be less than full, but not fewer than full. A glass can have fewer than 12 ounces of beer in it, but not less than 12 ounces. You can't have less than 12 items at the express lane at the grocery store... but you can have fewer than 12 items.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #30 January 25, 2011 thanks! would the same person on an XF109 have an advantage on the learning-curve compared to the same person on say a 210 navigator!? i mean this, seriously.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #31 January 25, 2011 That depends a lot on which learning curve you mean.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #32 January 25, 2011 please elaborate on your POV of the "curve"..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rugby82 0 #33 January 25, 2011 Quote believe it or not, my friend is now considering 270's.. actually he managed to survive the whole season with his tiny new wing n'stuff. guess i just like to rip on his mind and see what you guys are up to!? so, die or try!? Small canopy, high wingload, not much jumps, doing 270's and a very short recovery arc for the Safire2. The perfect combination to hit the ground very hard. Hope he survives. I'll read all about it in the incident forum.Blue skies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,072 #34 January 25, 2011 >what IS the worst that could happen? Well, let's see: Koji - paralysis Molly - coma for 2 weeks; a year of surgeries Ray - six months of surgeries. On the plus side he got a cool walker free of charge, and someone got a tiny Stiletto for really cheap. Not counting all the deaths, of course, but they always happen to someone else, and you never see them complaining here - so they're easy to disregard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strop45 0 #35 January 25, 2011 Quote Shit on a stick, VB... It is FEWER than 300 jumps, not LESS THAN 300 jumps. If you are talking about something that you can count, USE FEWER. If you're talking about a relative quantity, USE LESS THAN (or MORE THAN) Here's an example: A glass can be less than full, but not fewer than full. A glass can have fewer than 12 ounces of beer in it, but not less than 12 ounces. You can't have less than 12 items at the express lane at the grocery store... but you can have fewer than 12 items. Disagree with the exception of "fewer than full" the rest sound OK/acceptable to me. A glass can definitely have less than 100 ml of beer in it.The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -- Albert Einstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #36 January 25, 2011 Quote Quote believe it or not, my friend is now considering 270's.. actually he managed to survive the whole season with his tiny new wing n'stuff. guess i just like to rip on his mind and see what you guys are up to!? so, die or try!? Small canopy, high wingload, not much jumps, doing 270's and a very short recovery arc for the Safire2. The perfect combination to hit the ground very hard. Hope he survives. I'll read all about it in the incident forum. i always told my friend to get a smaller XF, fucker never listened! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #37 January 25, 2011 Quote>what IS the worst that could happen? Well, let's see: Koji - paralysis Molly - coma for 2 weeks; a year of surgeries Ray - six months of surgeries. On the plus side he got a cool walker free of charge, and someone got a tiny Stiletto for really cheap. Not counting all the deaths, of course, but they always happen to someone else, and you never see them complaining here - so they're easy to disregard. ok, i always thought it was like - uhm - really bad, you know!?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sangi 0 #38 January 25, 2011 Quotevery short recovery arc for the Safire2. I hear this very often. Can you please elaborate how short the recovery arc? Maybe some example, comparison (like to that of a sabre2). I'm really interested."Dream as you'll live forever, live as you'll die today." James Dean Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #39 January 25, 2011 only n00bs would say that my friend says; he keeps diving and diving with body-input only, after the initial turn.. that is if he's too high, which he is mostly.. body-input is your FRIEND.. my buddy seems to be an old-school swooper tough, from what i have read on germains "the canopy and it's pilot". but in this case, old-school actually means "safe school". if you dont use the "swing" of a braked approach, you may never "swing low - sweet chariot", hence, too low to fuck yourself completely up.. or so my buddy says.“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rugby82 0 #40 January 25, 2011 QuoteQuotevery short recovery arc for the Safire2. I hear this very often. Can you please elaborate how short the recovery arc? Maybe some example, comparison (like to that of a sabre2). I'm really interested. I had a Sabre2 170 @ 1.5 and a Safire2 139 @ 1.8 and had to turn lower with the Safire2 then with the Sabre2. The Safire2 is a good canopy but imo not so good for safe swooping. It will go the distance but you got to have the balls to hang on to the front-risers till you're very low. I now own a XF2 139 and it's better for swooping but not for inexperienced canopy pilots. IMO the Sabre2 is the perfect canopy to start swooping.Blue skies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sangi 0 #41 January 25, 2011 Do you have any videos of your Safire2 swoops? "Dream as you'll live forever, live as you'll die today." James Dean Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rugby82 0 #42 January 25, 2011 Quote Do you have any videos of your Safire2 swoops? I haven't got videos of swoops with the Safire2 but I can tell you that it can swoop the same distance as a Sabre2. You just have to have some bigger balls to do so.Blue skies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sangi 0 #43 January 25, 2011 Alright, thanks for the info "Dream as you'll live forever, live as you'll die today." James Dean Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #44 January 25, 2011 SoFPiDaRF official answer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2ZodAzECeU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #45 January 25, 2011 Quote at a WL@1.8 (almost) a suitable canopy for someone with less than 300 jumps!? i'm only asking for a friend of mine.. You missed an otion: GET VIDEO ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
