mirage62 0 #1 January 10, 2011 I'd really like to know the people that would stop skydiving if this was the case. YOU CAN'T get to another local dz. It's Sky Ride or give it up. (Let's say that the equipment is well maintained and the staff is nice) And it's my question so don't say "you can always go to another dz" I feel that a lot of people that are so upset fall into number four. Lot's of passion, little jumping, over this subject.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #2 January 10, 2011 how about the; Start my own DZ with integrety and passion, option?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hcsvader 1 #3 January 10, 2011 or maybe I could jump at the dropzone with the best airlift around but they stop jumping at noon because the tandoms are done for the day and they dont give a fuck about the fun jumpers... Fun jumpers are fun jumpers, I dont care where they jump. It's the greedy DZO's that are fucking things up. If you have the option support your local skydiving CLUB! if you can't I don't think the sky cares how you got thereHave you seen my pants? it"s a rough life, Livin' the dream >:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #4 January 10, 2011 I'm guy who brought up the idea that some jumpers don't have a choice with regards to where they jump if they want to jump at all. The idea comes from my personal situation, which is as follows. There are two DZs within an hour of where I live. The one is actually just over an hour, the other is closer to a half hour, but that's because I moved to the other side of town to be closer to this DZ. In all fairness, they are both about the same distance from the center of town. Either way, one of them is a turbine DZ known for generally being a 'safe' DZ. They lease a plane from a part 135 cargo/charter operation that runs one of the top maintenece shops in the area, and own a 182 that's maintained by a shop and A&P that I know. The 182 is nice enough that the DZO keeps the seats in the hanger, and re-installs them to fly his young children to fly-in's and pancake breakfasts while we a busy jumping the turrbine. Without going into details, the other DZ lacks the turbine, or all of the extenuating circumstanes outlined above that lead me to believe that the aircraft is well maintained. They lack the lift capacity and confidence I have in the aircraft of the other place. The nearest turbine DZ otherwise is just over two hours in either direction, and I would be happy to jump in either place, but I'm on call for my 'day job' every other weekend, and can't drive 2+ hours out of town and still be available to work in a timely manner. On the alternating weekends, I have visitation with my kids and sometimes spend a half day at the DZ, sometimes not at all. The end result is that if I didn't jump at the DZ where I do, I wouldn't be jumping very much at all. I could rework some areas of my life to make it more viable to drive the 2+ hours to get to another 'viable' DZ, but even then I would be lucky to get out there once a month. Factor in weather, and other things that 'come up', and I'd be looking at making 50 jumps per season. I'm not saying that anyone who makes 50 jumps per season shouldn't be jumping, I'm just saying that it wouldn't be worth it for me to rework my life and dedicate the time it would take for me to make 50 jumps a year. In my current situation, I manage closer to 200 jumps a year, and that's without building my life around jumping. The point is that things are more complicated than they seem online. People sometimes do have to make a hard choice, and sometimes that choice is jump someplace owned by someone you don't agree with, or not jump at all. Anyone remotely dedicated to jumping should have no problem making that choice. Nothing lasts forever, things will change sooner or later, and if you're planning to be around the sport for a while, DZs and DZOs will come and go, and the next round might be better or it might be worse, but in the meantime, it's not worth giving up the sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #5 January 10, 2011 Yes, your question. Yes, my answer: -I'd rent a U-haul.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #6 January 10, 2011 Quote Yes, your question. Yes, my answer: -I'd rent a U-haul. I did "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alabamaskydiver 0 #7 January 10, 2011 The theme of this thread is more serious than most of us realize because having the only DZ's around is Cary Q's master plan. He wants to have the monopoly on ALL skydives that occur in the US, up-jumper, student, and tandem included. I'd quit and only jump when I travel to areas of the world that Skyride is not present. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #8 January 10, 2011 I think that was their business plan at one time. I think opening the two other DZs is what caused them the most trouble (well, that and fucking the wrong person in Georgia) as it showed their Skyride affiliates that as soon as they had a foothold in an area they would open a DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #9 January 11, 2011 I'd move. Or quit. They will never get my money.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #10 January 11, 2011 QuoteI'd move. Or quit. They will never get my money. Hence the U-Haul.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #11 January 11, 2011 Quote Quote I'd move. Or quit. They will never get my money. Hence the U-Haul. I'm not living with you andy!Well - I guess we could get a 36 foot Uhaul and convert it. Hmmmm.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #12 January 11, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I'd move. Or quit. They will never get my money. Hence the U-Haul. I'm not living with you andy!Well - I guess we could get a 36 foot Uhaul and convert it. Hmmmm. If that van is a rockin...."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
earthbruiser 0 #13 January 11, 2011 QuoteI'd move. Or quit. That seem's a bit extreme! How about just renting a Cessna and a pilot for a day or two? FW UC E.Potter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #14 January 11, 2011 I'd get on their plane to fun jump and on the way up I'd tell every passenger they paid too much for their jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #15 January 11, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote I'd move. Or quit. They will never get my money. Hence the U-Haul. I'm not living with you andy!Well - I guess we could get a 36 foot Uhaul and convert it. Hmmmm. If that van is a rockin.... . . . then that would be my side of the converted van, Pops . . . well . . . you know.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 1 #16 January 11, 2011 QuoteHe wants to have the monopoly on ALL skydives that occur in the US, up-jumper, student, and tandem included. Sounds like the USPA...... I'm not a SkyRide fan, but I'm also not a fan of mandatory USPA Membership. OK Hijack over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hvance 0 #17 January 12, 2011 I don't like Skyride, but I wouldn't quit skydiving rather than jump at one of their DZs. For some, moving isn't an option due to education, work, or family situations. To simply refuse to jump period is far too extreme for me.I wish Google Maps had an "Avoid Ghetto" routing option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #18 January 12, 2011 I voted "stop jumping". The one thing about people like Cary is that they can't do it alone. They have to have help. If you jump at his DZ, you're helping him, no matter how much fun you're having.You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #19 January 12, 2011 I already drives hours to avoid the DZ here, so if buy crooked means they "take Over" I would hang it up. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #20 January 12, 2011 Quote If that van is a rockin.... . . . then that would be my side of the converted van, Pops . . . well . . . you know.Yeah...I remember a certain Dublin boogie when somebody ran off with the girl I was workin' on... Nevermind that I didn't have a real shot anyway but it's the principle of the thing. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #21 January 12, 2011 Quote Quote If that van is a rockin.... . . . then that would be my side of the converted van, Pops . . . well . . . you know. Yeah...I remember a certain Dublin boogie when somebody ran off with the girl I was workin' on... Nevermind that I didn't have a real shot anyway but it's the principle of the thing. But - But - I'm pure and innocent - Surely I was only trying to rescue her from your letcherous grip.Right?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #22 January 13, 2011 If it was the ONLY option I would jump there, and I would still have as much fun doing it... even if I didn't support those behind it. What I get out of skydiving is MUCH greater than anything Sky Ride could take away.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
