peanut4040 0 #1 December 18, 2010 They told me to not jump up and knee jerk, and to allow time for rational thinking to prevail. Note, its too early in the day for me to be drinking. I started falling out of airplanes in1975, and started having REAL fun with it in 1990 something. I believe in freedom of choice. If you want t o kill yourself, you have a license to do that. HOWEVER You don't have a license to kill me. And if a certain drop zone close to me, starts implementing an AAD requirement for jumping at their drop zone. I've got two more reasonably close drop zones I can go to. PRO CHOICE---- on AADs, They can save you, and they can kill you.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #2 December 18, 2010 Gotta love having part of a story...But from what you said, Yep, it should always be a choice , for lisensed jumpers.... BUT, I can also see the DZO's problem.(lawsuits from family members)...one of the local DZ's here makes it waiverable to not use one for D lisensed jumpers, all others must have one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #3 December 18, 2010 I'm with ya peanut...Seems ya can't do anything without training wheels anymore, no matter how long ya been riding!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coconutmonkey 0 #4 December 18, 2010 Here here! Over dependance on mechanical back ups is another attempt to repleive people of their individual responsibility to save their life. Yeah, someone else could cause a jumper to not be able to do it, but it is not a bubble wraped world. Just my .02 Hearts & Minds 2 to the Heart- 1 to the Mind- Home of the Coconut Lounge, Spa, & Artillery Range Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #5 December 18, 2010 It didn't help the Russian.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 December 18, 2010 The '90's called; They want their debate back. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #7 December 18, 2010 I'm just curious - how long does it take for rational thinking to prevail?You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #8 December 19, 2010 I'm just curious - how long does it take for rational thinking to prevail? Chuckles,,, Not sure my friend. But remember I aint saying nothing. Y E TIts a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #9 December 19, 2010 Here is something else to think about, lets say hypothetically someone has a rule, and they say you don't have to follow it . Doesn't that make them MORE liable? "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #10 December 19, 2010 Dang it nutz,,, I didn't say nothing.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #11 December 19, 2010 Yep, Started drinking. First post, one coma. Now we're up to three. I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #12 December 19, 2010 Just cut the display off an expired AAD and stick it in your rig so it can be seen. Bingo - they are happy and you get to fuck the system!"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SRI85 0 #13 December 19, 2010 QuoteJust cut the display off an expired AAD and stick it in your rig so it can be seen. Bingo - they are happy and you get to fuck the system! i bet even a life size picture of an AAD in the window might work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #14 December 19, 2010 Quote Just cut the display off an expired AAD and stick it in your rig so it can be seen. Bingo - they are happy and you get to fuck the system! Won't work at a boogie. Thin gear check and reserve packing card. I think a local DZ in Wa state was the first to turn into a tandem mill. The fun jumpers were wineing about having to wait on all the tandemsDZO was subtle he required all jumpers to have a AAD. It stoped the wineing. The fun jumpers left. The origional R.I.P.One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #15 December 19, 2010 laughing very hard,,, and to mention,, I ain't even said nothing yet. LLLLLL,, these GRAND MONITORS, have already moved the thread... DAMN i'm good.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #16 December 19, 2010 Just cut the display off an expired AAD and stick it in your rig so it can be seen. laughng hard,, another Jonny gates muff muff man,,,, heheheh the only reason to have an ADD is Johhny Gates.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #17 December 19, 2010 MUFF MUFF MUFF,,, HEY ASSSHOLSSSSSSSIts a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #18 December 19, 2010 What?! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #19 December 19, 2010 CHUCKLES,, dars oneeeeIts a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #20 December 19, 2010 Quote Just cut the display off an expired AAD and stick it in your rig so it can be seen. Bingo - they are happy and you get to fuck the system! Ed White, has one tattoo'd on his neck....My naighbor tattooed it there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liftedtitan 0 #21 December 19, 2010 Quote And if a certain drop zone close to me, starts implementing an AAD requirement for jumping at their drop zone. I've got two more reasonably close drop zones I can go to. PRO CHOICE---- on AADs, They can save you, and they can kill you. Im sure you are going to put them right out of business. Not really much to debate, but you know just as well as everyone that AAD's for whatever the reason have saved more than they have killed. Why do you jump a square as opposed to rounds? Is it the technology?Moriuntur omnes, sed non omnes vixerunt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #22 December 19, 2010 I started out on rounds, with no holes for guidance. Eventually I graduated to holes in a parachute for guidance. AND, you started out in skydiving with? ? ? ?Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #23 December 19, 2010 I am following the compulsory AAD issues for a while. I made about 1700 jumps without AAD then at 60, I decided to buy one. But as ever, I am still against the decision of any entities: DZ, Association or states... to make AAD's compulsory. I am for the free choice but those entities can advertise, suggest, print posters and encourage the licensed jumpers to wear an AAD when they jump but not force the people to have it. Legally, I think that if an AAD is responsible for the death of somebody, those entities which makes it compulsory could be in big trouble. OTOH I think it is good to have the AAD's mandatory for students since they are not already aware or experienced.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #24 December 19, 2010 La de da de da. :-) "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #25 December 19, 2010 Yeah because that would work learn to follow the rules or go somewhere else Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites