Video of what appears to be bad EP's; You decide.

[liftedtitan 0]

At 1:40 she cuts away, THEN starts scrabling to find her reserve handle.

http://vimeo.com/14019614

what do you all think? This was not how i was trained, but im just curious.

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[matthewcline 0]

There are two commonly accepted methods of performing EP's.

The one hand on each handle method and the two hands on one handle method.

Two hands one handle method;
Look at and grab soft cut away handle with two hands, LOOK at reserve handle, peel and pull cut away handle, grab and pull reserve handle.

One hand one handle method;
Look at Soft Handle grab with right hand, look at reserve handle grab with left hand, peel and pull with the right hand then the left hand.

It appears she used the first method, maybe during the harness shift at her cut away she lost sight for a moment of the reserve handle.

Matt

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[dgskydive 0]

Thats why I like one hand better then two. She did really well, but if one of her wings got wrapped around that handle she may have more issues then she wanted.

Dom

[dragon2 2]

I was trained like she was, 2 hands per handle. Looked normal to me. With a wingsuit, on my back, I'd have flipped over too.

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Do people usually disconnect the RSL for wingsuit jumps?

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[dragon2 2]

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Do people usually disconnect the RSL for wingsuit jumps?

Yes and no, ie, up to you. I did, but I had 350+ jumps and 2 cutaways already. I advise wingsuit students with ~200 jumps to keep it connected.
But since this jumper jumps camera, that's a bigger reason to disconnect the rsl.

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Saskia

[jonstark 8]

I've got no problem with the way she handled the situation. It's the way I see it in my mental rehearsal all the time. Way to go Steph!

jon

[wildcard451 0]

I am a one hand each person, practiced and performed, however, looks like she did a good two hand approach to me. Bravo.

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[monkycndo 0]

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Do people usually disconnect the RSL for wingsuit jumps?

I jump with mine attached. There is no reason to disconnect your RSL just for wearing a WS. I just had a chop due to a diving line twist. I use the one hand per handle method. The RSL still beat me. I'd rather land a reserve with line twists instead of one at line stretch. Nylon over my head sooner rather then later is my preference.

And the EPs in the video looked fine to me.

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[yeyo 1]

The only thing I see is that she started to unzip her arm wings DURING deployment, that was what probably caused the line twist. Other that that, good EPs.

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Do people usually disconnect the RSL for wingsuit jumps?

Yes and no, ie, up to you. I did, but I had 350+ jumps and 2 cutaways already. I advise wingsuit students with ~200 jumps to keep it connected.
But since this jumper jumps camera, that's a bigger reason to disconnect the rsl.

Thanks. I hadn't considered the camera aspect of it.

"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls."

~ CanuckInUSA

[sundevil777 102]

It seemed that even with 2 hands, it took a lot of effort to cut away, and then pulling the reserve handle not very vigorously, just far enough - as opposed to punching it out forcefully. Of course it probably didn't seem like that to her, video can be deceiving.

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[t2.3aero 0]

have not had to do one yet but just started my aff and i was taight the two hand method.... i got pretty fast at it and was taught to pull those things clear out as far as i could.... looked pretty routine to what i was taught

Some people say "The sky is the limit" .... those people must not skydive..

[Martini 0]

EPs looked good, maybe a little tough getting the reserve but that's what a two hander will do for ya. BTW the cause of the twists is obvious, at 1:24 you can see the open legwing throwing her body all over, unzipping during deployment is also a poor idea if the opening isn't square.

Sometimes you eat the bear..............

[diablopilot 2]

Nothing wrong with that procedure IF a reasonable pull altitude and harddeck are kept in mind. For a wingsuit jump I'd call that 3,500 and 2,000.

Now if she's smoking it down to 2,500 or lower, then it's a crater bait scenario.

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[petejones45 0]

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At 1:40 she cuts away, THEN starts scrabling to find her reserve handle.

http://vimeo.com/14019614

what do you all think? This was not how i was trained, but im just curious.

there are two common methods:

the one i was taught was; look, locate, punch right punch left ARCH!

and the other one is grab red, peel, punch, toss find silver pull arch. way to many steps in my opinion but it seems to work

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[SpinxB 0]

I was trained to use one hand per handle too, and that's what I'm gonna do if I need to cut away, but the method in this video looked just fine to me as well... I've never jumped a WS so I wouldn't know what's best in that situation, but it seemed to work just fine :)

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[Butters 0]

I prefer one hand per handle while wingsuiting ... after all, wings can cover handles.

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[virgin-burner 1]

right, grab on to cutaway, left, grab onto reserve, pull right, wait to be clear and stable, pull left; that's how i was thaught. and i'll stick to it, WS or not..

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[skyrider 0]

I do one hand on each handle,(7cutaways so far) her suit presented issues...."my" opinon, she should have located handles before losing the only rag she had!

[virgin-burner 1]

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I do one hand on each handle,(7cutaways so far) her suit presented issues...."my" opinon, she should have located handles before losing the only rag she had!

never had a cutaway yet, probably because i do my own packing..

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[skyrider 0]

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I do one hand on each handle,(7cutaways so far) her suit presented issues...."my" opinon, she should have located handles before losing the only rag she had!

never had a cutaway yet, probably because i do my own packing..

All of mine happened on "paid packers" .....Two packed by riggers!

[piisfish 140]

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I do one hand on each handle,(7cutaways so far) her suit presented issues...."my" opinon, she should have located handles before losing the only rag she had!

never had a cutaway yet, probably because i do my own packing..

for your next reserve repack, do it with your rigger

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[virgin-burner 1]

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I do one hand on each handle,(7cutaways so far) her suit presented issues...."my" opinon, she should have located handles before losing the only rag she had!

never had a cutaway yet, probably because i do my own packing..

All of mine happened on "paid packers" .....Two packed by riggers!

see, that's what i mean!

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

[virgin-burner 1]

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I do one hand on each handle,(7cutaways so far) her suit presented issues...."my" opinon, she should have located handles before losing the only rag she had!

never had a cutaway yet, probably because i do my own packing..

for your next reserve repack, do it with your rigger

i ALWAYS pull my handles when i bring in my rig for repack!

the first time, i was actually thinking of doing it IN THE AIR, on my last jump of the day.. i know, that's kind of stupid, but really, it was TEMPTING!!!

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda