vpjr 18 #1 October 23, 2010 Is this guy a jumper? This isnt an aerobatic airplane and sounds like he was on a xcountry in the aircraft. He has a lot of explaining to do. Bizarre Bailout Story By Glenn Pew, Contributing Editor, Video Editor Barrington Slack, a private pilot, was reportedly alone in a single-engine 1976 Rockwell International 112TC Commander flying over Burke County, Georgia, when he departed the aircraft and landed safely under canopy. The aircraft impacted near a cow pasture and was destroyed. One witness who estimated he was about 400 yards from the crash site saw the aircraft come down and said the impact, "was like a bomb went off." A local ABC news affiliate reported that a police report "said Slack tried to get the plane’s rudder to work but didn’t have much luck. And a little after 7, the plane ran out of fuel and crashed." The Augusta Chronicle reported that Slack told authorities he'd departed Covington at about 4 p.m. for Columbia, S.C.. The cities are about 175 miles apart and the crash site is roughly between the two but off track to the south. After landing safely with his parachute, Slack reportedly hitched a ride back to the crash site, where he apparently spoke with early responders, refused medical attention and left. The Augusta Chronicle reported that the wrecked aircraft is registered to Kalunju Aviation Group of Atlanta, and the Georgia Secretary of State's Web site lists Slack as that company's agent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 October 23, 2010 Insurance scam? Who would have a bailout rig in a 112?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #3 October 23, 2010 More: http://www2.wjbf.com/news/2010/oct/22/faa-investigators-search-scene-after-plane-crashes-ar-998676/ "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 October 23, 2010 Exiting one of these would be a really tight squeeze and I can't see a single reason to have a bailout rig in one of these.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #5 October 24, 2010 Having a parachute on board was quite common in the early years. Even a brochure I have on Taylorcraft Airplanes shows the instructor and student pre-flighting the airplane both wearing chutes. As general aviation got bigger, this common idea to have chutes on board went by the wayside. Additionally, it didn't instill confidence for Cessna, Piper and Beech to have brochures showing people wearing them. Over the years it become less and less common and now its looked at as being weird. The old ripcord TV series also advocated it on a couple of episodes. I always wear an emergency parachute when flying my plane (Cessna 185). I always did and have them for my passengers as well. I'm not going to trust my life to machines that have killed thousands, with thousands more being saved by their use. Look at my profile picture. I'm not flying jumpers, its just a self-shot while on a trip and it shows me wearing a rig.You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #6 October 24, 2010 Quote Exiting one of these would be a really tight squeeze and I can't see a single reason to have a bailout rig in one of these. A friend of my use to fly a lot of single engine IFR, much of it over mountainous terrain at night, doing bank check routes. After a forced landing from engine failure on takeoff, he got a pilot's rig and started wearing it. I've jumped from a C-210 with the regular door in place. It was a bit of a squeeze. I can imagine the door would seem larger if the plane were going down.However, some of this does sound like an insurance scam. Wouldn't be the first questionable crash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #7 October 24, 2010 Quote Quote Exiting one of these would be a really tight squeeze and I can't see a single reason to have a bailout rig in one of these. A friend of my use to fly a lot of single engine IFR, much of it over mountainous terrain at night, doing bank check routes. After a forced landing from engine failure on takeoff, he got a pilot's rig and started wearing it. I've jumped from a C-210 with the regular door in place. It was a bit of a squeeze. I can imagine the door would seem larger if the plane were going down. I agree that some planes would be a problem to get out of, but if you need to bail out because of weather or a problem at night or over bad terrain, slowing down the plane makes it doable. I have an ejector door on my pilot side and a jump door "actually they were originally seaplane doors" on the right side and not designed for jumping. The Cessna 150A & 152 Aerobats along with the Cessna's ordered by the Military for Vietnam use all have ejector doors which are real easy to use. Its like a ripcord There is an outside cable where the inside cable is connected to a handle inside the plane and acts as door hinge pins. You can adapt the system to most small planes.You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavydude 0 #8 October 24, 2010 Wow that is really neat, never knew that. I have a 150 and have contemplated wearing a chute while flying long XC in it, after all chutes in Sailplanes are real common. Contemplating bailing out of a sailplane was what got me into skydiving to begin with. I assume you have to have a pilots bailout rig as a regular skydive rig would be too bulky to fit a 150. I am 6'2 so not too much leg room. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #9 October 24, 2010 QuoteWow that is really neat, never knew that. I have a 150 and have contemplated wearing a chute while flying long XC in it, after all chutes in Sailplanes are real common. Contemplating bailing out of a sailplane was what got me into skydiving to begin with. I assume you have to have a pilots bailout rig as a regular skydive rig would be too bulky to fit a 150. I am 6'2 so not too much leg room. Yes, I do have a pilot rig which is called a Softie. But in case I have to bail out, I put a square in it. Figure since I know how to jump, might as well get down uninjured if possible. The little rounds are too scary for me. 150's are nice planes but if I were as tall as you, I would consider putting on the door eject system. It can't be too much money and here is a web site with some pictures that will give you somewhat of an idea of how it works. http://www.cessna150aerobat.com/bike/index.html You might also consider wearing just a harness with a clip on chute of some kind. I guess it depends on how much you want to spend. RegardsYou live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #10 October 24, 2010 Quote The Cessna 150A & 152 Aerobats along with the Cessna's ordered by the Military for Vietnam use all have ejector doors which are real easy to use. I've seen those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #11 October 24, 2010 QuoteYes, I do have a pilot rig which is called a Softie. But in case I have to bail out, I put a square in it. Didn't know you were allowed to put anything other than a round in the PEPs"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #12 October 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteYes, I do have a pilot rig which is called a Softie. But in case I have to bail out, I put a square in it. Didn't know you were allowed to put anything other than a round in the PEPs Don't know about now...but for a while there were a couple manufacturers building PEPs with squares...I have one with a 270sqft. 7 cell in it. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #13 October 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteYes, I do have a pilot rig which is called a Softie. But in case I have to bail out, I put a square in it. Didn't know you were allowed to put anything other than a round in the PEPs I use a Raven III which is not only BIG, but TSO'd for a main or reserve. I think most of the pilot rig manufacturers offer squares but only recommend them for those with skydiving experience.You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEREJumper 1 #14 October 24, 2010 QuoteYou might also consider wearing just a harness with a clip on chute of some kind. Butler makes (to my knowledge) the only Quick Attachable Chest (QAC) Parachute on the market today (that is made specifically as a bailout rig). http://www.butlerparachutes.com/ - Click on "Butler Personnel Parachute Systems, LLC" - Click on "Emergency Quick Attachable Chest (QAC) Parachutes"We're not fucking flying airplanes are we, no we're flying a glorified kite with no power and it should be flown like one! - Stratostar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #15 October 24, 2010 No word on what the guy's story was as to why he un-assed himself from the airplane? Engine failure? Fire? Wing fell off?? Bet the FAA and Insurance Company will be talking to him quite a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 October 24, 2010 According to the story linked in post #3, he claimed he ran out of fuel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #17 October 24, 2010 Quote According to the story linked in post #3, he claimed he ran out of fuel. Ah... sorry, missed that. Thanks. Well then, it ought to be pretty simple to figure out then... fuel left in the tanks, somethings fishy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #18 October 24, 2010 Quote According to the story linked in post #3, he claimed he ran out of fuel. ...the ole 'clogged the fuel lines with air' excuse! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #19 October 24, 2010 Well it states that the rudder stopped working first, then he ran out of fuel. Doesn't make much sense to me. Also, "When it hit the oak tree, debris started flying everywhere and the loud explosion came. It was like a bomb went off." Not sure if that means it was loaded with fuel or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #20 October 24, 2010 Yeah, like most people have ever seen what it really looks like when a bomb goes off... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites