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QuoteQuoteI was disappointed that i had to cutaway on a line twist.
Don't be disappointed, you perceived a problem and you dealt with it successfully. . .
Yes it's a rather high cutaway to jump number ratio, but so what, you are alive and uninjured and that's the goal.
Question: do you pack for yourself?
IF so: Learn to pack better!
If not: Musta been bad body position
Being an old-timer I still don't see why 'sport' jumpers don't pack for themselves.
I understand the need for comp teams, vidiots and instructors who have time constraints, but for the average jumpers...to me it's like riding a motorcycle and not knowing how to put gas in it.
"Here is some money, make my toy ready so I can go play"
When ya get to 4000 jumps look back and think about the 1000 'free' ones ya could have logged!
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
QuoteQuoteQuoteI was disappointed that i had to cutaway on a line twist.
Don't be disappointed, you perceived a problem and you dealt with it successfully. . .
Yes it's a rather high cutaway to jump number ratio, but so what, you are alive and uninjured and that's the goal.
Question: do you pack for yourself?
IF so: Learn to pack better!
If not: Musta been bad body position
Being an old-timer I still don't see why 'sport' jumpers don't pack for themselves.
I understand the need for comp teams, vidiots and instructors who have time constraints, but for the average jumpers...to me it's like riding a motorcycle and not knowing how to put gas in it.
"Here is some money, make my toy ready so I can go play"
Since I've been cleared to pack, I have only paid for 1 packjob that I can remember. It was after a zoo raft jump that really wore me the hell out, so I gave the packer $5 and went and got something to eat.
That opening sucked... but you pays your money, you takes your chance.
Not talking about reserves, I still pay for those packers... for now
"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly
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What idiot cleared YOU to pack?! 
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QuoteWhat idiot cleared YOU to pack?!
Key word.
"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly
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Being an old-timer I still don't see why 'sport' jumpers don't pack for themselves.
I understand the need for comp teams, vidiots and instructors who have time constraints, but for the average jumpers...to me it's like riding a motorcycle and not knowing how to put gas in it.
"Here is some money, make my toy ready so I can go play"
When ya get to 4000 jumps look back and think about the 1000 'free' ones ya could have logged!
+1
I am an instructor and also do 4 way competition stuff. I only have a handful of times where I have paid a packer. And it was only because our coach insisted we didn't have time between jumps.
I strongly believe non student skydivers should pack for themself.
Kim Mills
USPA D21696
Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I
USPA D21696
Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I
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I do not pack yet, Im still renting gear, I may be picking up a used rig here soon. Then i can really learn with repetitive packing. I took a packing class to get my A. but that doesnt mean i know what im doing. It very well could have been body position but lately when i grab my hackey ill hold it for a second or two to make sure im very stable then throw it.
QuoteI do not pack yet, Im still renting gear, I may be picking up a used rig here soon. Then i can really learn with repetitive packing. I took a packing class to get my A. but that doesnt mean i know what im doing. It very well could have been body position but lately when i grab my hackey ill hold it for a second or two to make sure im very stable then throw it.
Don't do that!
You are asking for problems...
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Thanks for the reply, Why? what kinda problems am i setting myself up for?
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QuoteI do not pack yet, Im still renting gear, I may be picking up a used rig here soon. Then i can really learn with repetitive packing. I took a packing class to get my A. but that doesnt mean i know what im doing. It very well could have been body position but lately when i grab my hackey ill hold it for a second or two to make sure im very stable then throw it.
Why aren't you packing? Just because it's rental gear is no excuse. I was packing for myself well before I had my own gear (it saved the cost of the packjob on the rental fee too).
The only way to learn is to do it. If you aren't sure about what you are doing, have someone keep an eye on you, but pack the thing!!!
Mains all pack the same (or at least close enough to not matter).
The only time I have used paid packers was at Summerfest back in July. It was over 90 degrees and I wanted to wear myself out jumping, not packing. Which I succeeded at nicely
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QuoteThanks for the reply, Why? what kinda problems am i setting myself up for?
With your experience, odds are that when you put your right hand behind you... you are actually causing some instability issue you are not detecting at this point.
You may either be starting to turn or go a bit head down...or both.
If you are actually pulling the hackey and holding the pilot-chute of a couple seconds you are priming the cannon for an out of sequence deployment.
You recent line twist problem could very well be from doing that.
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
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QuoteQuoteThanks for the reply, Why? what kinda problems am i setting myself up for?
With your experience, odds are that when you put your right hand behind you... you are actually causing some instability issue you are not detecting at this point.
You may either be starting to turn or go a bit head down...or both.
If you are actually pulling the hackey and holding the pilot-chute of a couple seconds you are priming the cannon for an out of sequence deployment.
You recent line twist problem could very well be from doing that.
I do not pull then hold it a couple seconds i hold the hackey a couple seconds then throw it, Will this cause the same?
trig78 0
Same here, i started packing for myself from jump 5 or so. Under supervision but still. I paid for a pack job few times when i got my Sabre because i couldnt get it in the bag. Thats over now tho 
QuoteQuoteQuoteThanks for the reply, Why? what kinda problems am i setting myself up for?
With your experience, odds are that when you put your right hand behind you... you are actually causing some instability issue you are not detecting at this point.
You may either be starting to turn or go a bit head down...or both.
If you are actually pulling the hackey and holding the pilot-chute of a couple seconds you are priming the cannon for an out of sequence deployment.
You recent line twist problem could very well be from doing that.
I do not pull then hold it a couple seconds i hold the hackey a couple seconds then throw it, Will this cause the same?
It will effect your body position unless you are doing something to 'balance' out the right hand behind you...with 37 jumps it's likely you don't notice it.
~what you're doing to 'insure' you are stable, may actually be causing some instability.
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
Zlew 0
QuoteThanks for the reply, Why? what kinda problems am i setting myself up for?
Horseshoe.
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I do not pull then hold it a couple seconds i hold the hackey a couple seconds then throw it, Will this cause the same?
Sorry, just now saw this. If you are not pulling the PC out of the pouch, you should be fine. Pulling it out and not getting rid of it is super bad juju. Out of sequence opening, entanglement (foot, arm etc.), horseshoe>baglock combo are all in the cards when you play that game.
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QuoteQuoteQuoteThanks for the reply, Why? what kinda problems am i setting myself up for?
With your experience, odds are that when you put your right hand behind you... you are actually causing some instability issue you are not detecting at this point.
You may either be starting to turn or go a bit head down...or both.
If you are actually pulling the hackey and holding the pilot-chute of a couple seconds you are priming the cannon for an out of sequence deployment.
You recent line twist problem could very well be from doing that.
I do not pull then hold it a couple seconds i hold the hackey a couple seconds then throw it, Will this cause the same?
You're better off getting stable first for a few seconds, then pitching it. Not holding it and letting go. Also you should start learning to pack yourself so you can take your time and eventually narrow down what the problem is. That way you only have yourself to blame and you can improve on it from there.
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You are all correct, learning to pack should have been a priority before now, Not to mention paying the packer at the end of the day is getting kinda pricey. I was under the impression that the rental gear had to be packed by a rigger. I just called them and I was wrong. There are alot of helpful people at the DZ i jump at who im sure would be willing to give a newbie a hand. Thanks for all your replies
Don't be disappointed, you perceived a problem and you dealt with it successfully. . .
Yes it's a rather high cutaway to jump number ratio, but so what, you are alive and uninjured and that's the goal.
Question: do you pack for yourself?
IF so: Learn to pack better!
If not: Musta been bad body position
DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890
I'm an asshole, and I approve this message
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