SkydiveJack 1 #1 October 10, 2010 I was at the Michigan v. Michigan State game on Saturday, October 9th. The 101st Airborne Screaming Eagles Demo Team dropped one jumper into the game with the game ball. He also trailed the American Flag while the National Anthem played. If I got the name right the jumper was Adam Shiffen(sp?). He landed exactly on time and on target. Great job soldier! Thank you sir!!! During a time out in the third quarter they showed a quick recap from his video of the jump on the scoreboard. It got a huge cheer from the crowd! I have done many demos into College Football and NFL games in the 1980’s with the Budweiser and Miller Skydiving Teams. This was actually my first time (beer!) seeing one as a spectator. It was pretty cool to finally see one from the stands. Of course it’s much cooler to see it from under canopy! Anyway, let us not forget the importance to our sport of the truly professional military and civilian demo jumpers who help attract more students to our DZ’s. Attached are two photos I took. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewR 0 #2 October 11, 2010 I didn't go to the game, but my friends there were really impressed by the demo and the video. I've been looking on the UM sports website hoping they would post the video, but no luck yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdathome 0 #3 October 11, 2010 In the second picture, it looks like two of the ground crew personal are catching the flag to keep it off the turf. What a nice touch! When we fly a flag at demo's, our goal (as ground crew, I don't jump demos obviously) is to get the flag picked up as soon as we can. From the observers point of view, is that what they are trying to acomplish? A little hard to speculate from a still shot, but that's what it looks like?Marriage is like a deck of cards. You start with two harts and a diamond only to discover you wish you had a club and a spade! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #4 October 11, 2010 QuoteIn the second picture, it looks like two of the ground crew personal are catching the flag to keep it off the turf. What a nice touch! When we fly a flag at demo's, our goal (as ground crew, I don't jump demos obviously) is to get the flag picked up as soon as we can. From the observers point of view, is that what they are trying to acomplish? A little hard to speculate from a still shot, but that's what it looks like? Yes. Catching the flag is exactly what the ground crew is doing. There were three ground crew from the team present. The jumper landed right on the target located by the south end zone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #5 October 11, 2010 When jumping a Flag suspended under the canopy, on a separate line/pulley system, the Ground Crews catch the flags as the Flag and jumper stop at the same time. When jumping a "Drop" flag, suspended under the jumper on a weighted lanyard, the crew pick the flag up ASAP as the flag and jumper usually still have some movement after the flag touched the ground and you don't want to "close line" the jumper or bang the crew with the weight. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdathome 0 #6 October 11, 2010 Quote When jumping a Flag suspended under the canopy, on a separate line/pulley system, the Ground Crews catch the flags as the Flag and jumper stop at the same time. When jumping a "Drop" flag, suspended under the jumper on a weighted lanyard, the crew pick the flag up ASAP as the flag and jumper usually still have some movement after the flag touched the ground and you don't want to "close line" the jumper or bang the crew with the weight. Matt This makes sense. I didn't even notice the flag was above the jumpers head. We do fly "drop" type flags. (FYI: we have a couple demo jumpers I would love to CLOSELINE when they land...) But seriously, thanks for the clarification!Marriage is like a deck of cards. You start with two harts and a diamond only to discover you wish you had a club and a spade! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #7 October 11, 2010 Some guy wrote and article about drop flags in one of last years Parachutists, in the opening paragraphs he covered the three typical flag set ups. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #8 October 11, 2010 This article is a couple of years old, but just to show what kind of spirit that team represents: http://www.army.mil/-news/2007/03/15/2279-amputee-pursues-skydiving-dream/You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #9 October 12, 2010 Max is an Inspiration to any and all. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings-n-Things 0 #10 October 12, 2010 *LIKE* Card carrying member of the Nanny State Liberation Front Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewR 0 #11 October 14, 2010 It has been posted to youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnJX2FiW-ik&feature=player_embedded Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #12 October 14, 2010 For a moment there i thought you meant they'd invaded France....If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #13 October 14, 2010 The official attendance for the game was 113,065 people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #14 October 15, 2010 Who needs toggles when you can just yank a random line to turn, and then bounce off the ground when you land Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #15 October 15, 2010 Quote Who needs toggles when you can just yank a random line to turn, and then bounce off the ground when you land Awww, so when's the cute little troll going to do his first stadium demo with a flag and smoke in front of 100,000 people? "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #16 October 15, 2010 Quote Who needs toggles when you can just yank a random line to turn, and then bounce off the ground when you land He was doing the dives with the single line because he was putting on 'A Show' for the crowd. He did use his toggles to land. Ever wonder why they have those big air bags for people doing accuracy to land on? Cause they generally don't have soft tip-toe landings. Next?"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #17 October 15, 2010 Quote Awww, so when's the cute little troll going to do his first stadium demo with a flag and smoke in front of 100,000 people? If that be the case then why even have the PRO rating if you aren't able to stand up a landing?Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #18 October 15, 2010 QuoteQuote Awww, so when's the cute little troll going to do his first stadium demo with a flag and smoke in front of 100,000 people? If that be the case then why even have the PRO rating if you aren't able to stand up a landing? You absolutely CANNOT be fucking serious."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #19 October 15, 2010 hmm, from a whufoo point of expectations (I guess), a demo jumper should be a) 100% safe for everybody (well... for himself too) b) wearing two flags minimum c) two smoke cans... three better d) tip-toe landing OF COARSE! so, very fast multi flag three color smoke Mr. 48 sparkling teeth.. with a theatrical bow Bow missing? Take him off PRO RatingWhat goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #20 October 15, 2010 Quote hmm, from a whufoo point of expectations (I guess), a demo jumper should be a) 100% safe for everybody (well... for himself too) b) wearing two flags minimum c) two smoke cans... three better d) tip-toe landing OF COARSE! so, very fast multi flag three color smoke Mr. 48 sparkling teeth.. with a theatrical bow Bow missing? Take him off PRO Rating But he did bow to the crowd! "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSHusky 0 #21 October 15, 2010 Adam did a great job. I don't expect anyone could do a stand up landing in a stadium that smelled that vile! Go buckeyes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #22 October 15, 2010 Quote Who needs toggles when you can just yank a random line to turn, and then bounce off the ground when you land It wasn't a random line. If you grab the outside A Line the way he did, it puts it into a spiral and it dives slightly quicker. It was intentional and appropriate, especially for that type of canopy. Most people fail to every explore control options. Don't be one of those people. As for the landing. Woops. It was definitely a mistake but it wasn't executing a dangerous move. He let up for the surge just a tiny bit late. I'm sure he was slightly embarrased but he did hit the mark. All in all, good job even with the mistake.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #23 October 16, 2010 Quote You absolutely CANNOT be fucking serious. I am, last i checked you need to stand up landings for your pro rating Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redramdriver 0 #24 October 16, 2010 His statement although ignorant, and unlearned doesn't automatically grant him "cute little troll" status, maybe something less harsh like...oh its that guy again...status...So, you bring your beer? Its 5 o'clock somewhere POPS #9344 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #25 October 16, 2010 Quote As for the landing. Woops. It was definitely a mistake but it wasn't executing a dangerous move. He let up for the surge just a tiny bit late. I'm sure he was slightly embarrased but he did hit the mark. All in all, good job even with the mistake. I was at the stadium and saw the jump. His landing area was set up by the south endzone and the band was lined up at the south 30 yard line all the way up to the north endzone. The wind was light but it was comming from the south, over the lip of the stadium. 3/4ths of the stadium is below ground level and there is no flow of air throught the stands. Basically it is a downward rotor machine. He did a great job with what he was given. The local TV news showed the video of the jump today. They were raving at how wonderful it was. We jumpers need to remember that a demo is for the public, not for us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites