decompresion 2 #1 August 19, 2010 I know this is a loooong one but here it is: The "I landed off" poll Note that this poll assumes you are about to land off regardless of how you got into that situation. So I am not looking for "Pull high if the spot in long" and so on. I am really more interested to read all the ones I haven't got here.There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #2 August 19, 2010 Landing off at my dz isn't a big deal, We're in a field surrounded by more fields. Since we're a 182 dz, it isn't hard to keep track of jumpers. What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #3 August 19, 2010 I would learn to fly my canopy and be able to put it where I want it instead of just landing where ever I end up on every landing. Canopy accuracy can save your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psychonaut 0 #4 August 19, 2010 QuoteI would learn to fly my canopy and be able to put it where I want it instead of just landing where ever I end up on every landing. Canopy accuracy can save your life. Are you saying that learning to fly your canopy will result in you being able to get back from any spot? I don't think you mean that but just incase. I'm assuming you mean precautionary learning to be able to settle into a grass path rather than trees.Stay high pull low Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaffo 0 #5 August 20, 2010 Psycho, That's not how I interpreted his response. I thought he meant he would have a choice of landing areas because he can pilot his canopy...and that learning to pilot your canopy could save your life.... Good Advice!!Take chances, just do it with all the information to make good decisions!! Muff Brother# 2706 Dudeist Skydiver# 121.5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psychonaut 0 #6 August 20, 2010 Yeah, I even read this entire thread wrong. My bad!Stay high pull low Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaffo 0 #7 August 20, 2010 Truth is, (truth induced by smirnoff, don't ask tomorrow) I'm not as good a canopy pilot as I ought to be. I don't think my truth is that uncommon......maybe I had outstanding mentors when I started skydiving, but with some years off, I've found that I'm not as good as I thought I was....Take chances, just do it with all the information to make good decisions!! Muff Brother# 2706 Dudeist Skydiver# 121.5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #8 August 20, 2010 Maps... GPS... shoe laces... Sounds more like, 'What would you do if you were blind folded in the plane, flew around for a while and had to get out in the middle of BFE.' *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airathanas 0 #9 August 20, 2010 I wouldn't recommend using show laces as a pullup cord. Apparently there was a fatality because someone used one as a pullup cord and the plastic end of the shoelace interfered with the deployment. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3449704;search_string=shoelace;#3449704http://3ringnecklace.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sebcat 0 #10 August 20, 2010 No, you're thinking of the fatality that was caused by lack of proper emergency procedures. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastphil 0 #11 August 20, 2010 Times when I landed off I would just make an impromptu demo, and have even landed in the middle of a highway; made it easier to get a ride back to the DZ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #12 August 20, 2010 I always keep a few bucks in my jumpsuit as well. Always nice to be able to make a phone call from a pulic phone if you need to. And no, I DO NOT jump with my $400 iPhone. I would rather carry $5 in $1's and a few quartersMuff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaffo 0 #13 August 20, 2010 That's a pretty good Idea, but you'll have to spend it on beer. Have you tried to find a payphone lately??? They've all but dissappeared... Take chances, just do it with all the information to make good decisions!! Muff Brother# 2706 Dudeist Skydiver# 121.5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #14 August 20, 2010 Or you can tell any random person that you'll give them five bucks if they let you use their phone. I also carry a pullup cord in the jumpsuit just in case I have to field pack and have a long way to walk to get to civilization.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonstark 8 #15 August 21, 2010 I wanna survive. So... I jump a canopy that works well in a broad array of situations loaded 1.2:1. I make sure the rest of the out jumpers are OK. I stuff my rig and canopy into my jumpsuit and backpack it back to the DZ. I re-manifest and go again. jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #16 August 21, 2010 In the placard pocket of my rigs, I carry: $10.00 Pullup cord 2-3 spare stoes. Money is for when I land off and feel like "tipping." When/if you fly a wingsuit, an off-landing is gonna happen at least once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beachbum 0 #17 August 21, 2010 Quote When/if you fly a wingsuit, an off-landing is gonna happen at least once. You mean some wingsuiters actually try to get back to the dz??? ... As long as you are happy with yourself ... who cares what the rest of the world thinks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #18 August 23, 2010 Yea you guys only have to worry when you land on the DZ.....Those power lines sure are big..... Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #19 August 23, 2010 Nah, but we did have a student hit the fence today. Check out Cheach's fb post hereWhat you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkfairy 0 #20 August 23, 2010 Open parachute while checking for traffic, check parachute, find suitable landing area, land, while still looking out for traffic, THEN worry about how to get home. I can't pull high with the groups that I'm on, so that's not an option. When I've landed off, I usually just gather up my gear and start walking. Weights and nylon suit and all. Us small RW women are TOUGH! Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
decompresion 2 #21 August 24, 2010 I agree completely with Chris Spence. (My $0.02) It is important to know your canopy and be able to land in a tight "off" field or a slope or along a field with a bit of a crosswind. It can be a harrowing experience to land in an "out" without being confident in your ability to survive the landing. (Insert: arguments on overconfidence, decision making affected by lack of confidence, target fixation, tunnel vision...has been discussed in other threads and lets not rehash them all here, again) About landing off and fatalities/injuries:There are at least a couple of incidents with experienced flyers landing off and not surviving the experience. (Search the Incidents forum) To summarize: Since it is possible to "femur" right in front of the hangar then it is possible to do the same thing farther away. Also: If you are in a DZ with a huge landing area you can still "make it in", break something and it would take some time for someone to notice, because you landed "in" and no one noticed that you just never got up. Cellphones: if you have a $4,000 iPenis or $3,000 CrakBerry or some other expensive piece of plastic and Silicon then it is understandable that you leave it on the ground. I got a "Pay-as-you-go" deal with a free refurbished phone for ~$25 just for jumping, camping, climbing, snowboard...etc in a little ziplock bag. It works great, battery lasts forever and reception is decent. GPS, Map, Aerial: When I started flying a wingsuit, I had a picture taken from altitude of the surrounding 2 miles from the DZ in my pocket. It really helps with spotting and planning on the ground because most DZ aerials are of the close area only. When the season changed in the fall I got a new one because the colors changed (A lot). Also a bunch of wingsuiters are flying with GPS devices to record flight characteristics such as glide angles, vertical speed, distance covered and so on. Wingsuits and landing off: It happens. I am not saying it should or that it is a big deal or whatever. Statement of fact...wingsuit flyers also land off, just like everybody else.There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #22 August 24, 2010 I once landed off and was picked up on the roadside and given a short ride back to DZ. Gave what I thought was $4 to the guy and said “thanks, here’s a few dollars for a beer”. He seemed overly happy and said “that’s more than a beer costs”. To which I replied “no problem you’ve been quite helpful”. Later when I went to pay for lunch I realised the missing $20 from my pocket as I had tipped him $24 – then I understood why he was so pleased with my tip."Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #23 August 24, 2010 1- learn how to land downwind. you may get into a situation where the only out is downwind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #24 August 24, 2010 I land in the biggest, flattest-looking field I can find, away from obstacles. If I can see well enough to know about fences & power lines, then I'll go for close to the road. Otherwise, I just identify the direction to go for the biggest road. I have a pull-up cord in my rig and know how to field-pack. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #25 August 24, 2010 Quote I have a pull-up cord in my rig and know how to field-pack. Any difference between your field pack and your regular pack?"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites