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420lb male skydiving. Possible? Yes, but how?

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You might try looking thru the skydiving adventures of ATSAUBREY

He has not been online in a while.. but he was a pretty big boy too.



He had an exit weight of 360 lbs, this guy would be more than 100lbs more, closer to 140 lbs more. Figure a body weight of 420 lbs, plus a converted tandem rig would probably weigh in around 75lbs, for an exit weight just shy of 500lbs.

I know a handful of jumpers with an exit weight of 140lbs, the difference between the two guys.

I remember Atsaubrey, and he may go down in history as the top end of how big a jumper could be. Anyone have any stories that can top a 360 lb exit weight? Modern day examples with square canopies?



............my exit weight is 140...........lol:(
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At 420 lbs I assume you are a body builder or other high muscle mass sport to be at that size and be in excellent shape considering your size.



Even the absolute top body builders that are completely juiced beyond belief don't get much heavier than 320lbs in the off season. Even the top strong men (for things like Worlds Strongest Man or The Arnold) aren't heavier than about 375lbs and are usually around 6'6" for that weight.
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I have video around here somewhere of a jump with him at Mesquite NV with some of the Flying Elvi.... and Bozo.... we did build a 5 way around him... but he kinda sunk out when we went to the second point.

That boy could FALL




Thats an understatement.

I jumped with Aubrey several times after that particular jump and it was always like chasing a tandem , sans drouge.
With regards to the OP......lose 200 pounds or go buy some nice golf clubs.


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My best advise would be to lose the weight. When I started skydiving, I was 240ish, and ballooned up to 325(exit weight). skydiving just wasnt that much fun anymore. My fall rates were over 160 on my belly, openings were painful, and tore up many jump suits on landing. I'm down to 200 at 5'11", I can match other ppl's fall rates now, no more bruised legs from hard openings either:)

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I got it! Static line hop and pops on a converted tandem rig! No freefall tike bt you sill get the prett view :)

Yep i know, im a genius :) lol
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I'm a 22 year old, 6' 420 lb male. I'm actually in excellent physical shape considering my size...



Not bust your bubble, but that is a laughable statement. Even NFL linemen don't weigh in at 420, and most of the 300+ guys are 6'5" or taller.
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Dave, Just curious on the numbers for your math. why would a tandem rig converted to a boc/ no drogue wieght almost 50% more thatn a normal tandem rig.



It's very complicated and highly technical. Terribly flawed, but complicated and highly technical never the less.

I'll amend my numbers to closer to 50lbs. for the rig. You lose the drouge assembly, and the lowers, but it would have to be stuffed with the largest canopies anyone could find (besides that monster cargo canopy that was north of a few 1000 sq ft.).

Still, you're looking at 475lb out the door.

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Could also perhaps try out some wind tunnel first prior to getting into skydiving. You could at least find out your fall rate and learn to fall stable.

Worst comes to worst if you can't end up skydiving you could always just be a tunnel rat and fly like crazy and have a damn good time!



Hmmm, a 420 lb guy in a wind tunnel? I think they'll need Tim the Tool Man Taylor to come out and tweak the motor to get more HP out of it. I'd be surprised if there are any wind tunnels that can get him off the wire mesh on the bottom! :D
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I have video around here somewhere of a jump with him at Mesquite NV with some of the Flying Elvi.... and Bozo.... we did build a 5 way around him... but he kinda sunk out when we went to the second point.

That boy could FALL




Thats an understatement.

I jumped with Aubrey several times after that particular jump and it was always like chasing a tandem , sans drouge.
With regards to the OP......lose 200 pounds or go buy some nice golf clubs.

Or give sumo wrestling a try. :P
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WTF! I call bullshit...



Not necessarily. I have a friend that is 5'4" and weighs 350lbs. He expressed interest in tandem skydiving and I had to tell him unfortunately it just isnt possible not only because of his weight but also his numerous health issues due to his weight.

6' and 420 lbs would be a similar ratio.
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Dude, I was 270 pounds when I did my tandem, 270 pounds at FJC, ballooned up to 325 pounds, took a year off to lose weight, started jumping again at 210 pounds. Do yourself a favour, drop 200 pounds, you'll have a bad landing and bust yourself up for sure, there's enough titanium walking around dz's across North America, not only that it's easier to maneuver inside and outside of 182s and 206s and generally makes the sport easier and more enjoyable, also cheaper as you can then purchase used gear without going to custom made gear.

check out this link

http://jorgecruise.com/

and this one

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3296280;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread

Good Luck:)


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I guess I should elaborate a little more. Yes, I am 420lbs, been +\- 5 lbs for the last 6 years. I might need to remind people that bone weighs much more than muscle... I nowhere said I was a bodybuilder. (or a sumo wrestler) I do have a lot of muscle mass, and I have some fat on me... Sure it's easy to say lose 200 lbs, but I challenge you to name a diet type that I haven't ACTUALLY tried. Everything short of stomach surgery that is. And as intriguing as it sounds, I'm not doing this for a world record, or to post on YouTube. It's for personal satisfaction and to feed my need for adrenaline. You ever meet a big guy that tripple waxed a crazy carpet so he could break 65mph? Hi, I'm Mike.

Thank you very much to the people that think it can be done. And for the people out there naysaying, you don't need to follow this thread anymore. I have made up my mind. If you'll notice, the thread topic asked how, not if it was possible The money doesn't matter, and I'm not worried about having other people to keep up to me on decent. It's a freefall for a reason to be FREE.
As for other concerns, I have consulted my doctor, and he can't see any reason to not go for it. Again, this is just an outcry from someone new to the sport, looking upon the collective wealth of knowledge of the skydiving community. I thought that's what this forum was for, not to get shot down. Thank you to those that offered real input, and maybe some of you will get to see personally when this comes to fruition (maybe need to get all the 250+ "too big to jump" guys together to show all the less portly how it's done)

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I guess I should elaborate a little more. Yes, I am 420lbs, been +\- 5 lbs for the last 6 years. I might need to remind people that bone weighs much more than muscle... I nowhere said I was a bodybuilder. (or a sumo wrestler) I do have a lot of muscle mass, and I have some fat on me... Sure it's easy to say lose 200 lbs, but I challenge you to name a diet type that I haven't ACTUALLY tried. Everything short of stomach surgery that is. And as intriguing as it sounds, I'm not doing this for a world record, or to post on YouTube. It's for personal satisfaction and to feed my need for adrenaline. You ever meet a big guy that tripple waxed a crazy carpet so he could break 65mph? Hi, I'm Mike.

Thank you very much to the people that think it can be done. And for the people out there naysaying, you don't need to follow this thread anymore. I have made up my mind. If you'll notice, the thread topic asked how, not if it was possible The money doesn't matter, and I'm not worried about having other people to keep up to me on decent. It's a freefall for a reason to be FREE.
As for other concerns, I have consulted my doctor, and he can't see any reason to not go for it. Again, this is just an outcry from someone new to the sport, looking upon the collective wealth of knowledge of the skydiving community. I thought that's what this forum was for, not to get shot down. Thank you to those that offered real input, and maybe some of you will get to see personally when this comes to fruition (maybe need to get all the 250+ "too big to jump" guys together to show all the less portly how it's done)



Its most likely going to be expensive VERY expensive.

You are going to have to get a used tandem rig modified for sport use.
You will need a tandem canopy and tandem reserve. Those are the only canopies that will even approach a 1 square foot to 1 pound wingloading for an exit weight of 475 pounds.

I do not think there is anyone in the country that can or will do AFF with you.
There might be a chance to do static line progression once you have the rig and canopies ( and a student or tandem Cypres AAD)

You will need to only concentrate on dropzones with Grand Caravans and Twin otters or tailgate airplanes like the CASA or Skyvan because dude..... you will NOT be getting into or out of a C-182 or C-206.

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I thought that's what this forum was for, not to get shot down. Thank you to those that offered real input, and maybe some of you will get to see personally when this comes to fruition (maybe need to get all the 250+ "too big to jump" guys together to show all the less portly how it's done)



Not all the nay sayers were posting negative responses to be jerks or to be insensitive.

There are some serious challenges of physics and the limitations of the equipment that are not something you can get around.

Most modern gear was simply not designed to safely handle the amount of weight. The stress of decelerating that much mass can prove to be damaging to the gear, and to your body as well.

I wouldn't say its "impossible" but its certainly going to be difficult to accommodate.

I'd suggest contacting gear manufacturers directly with your questions.

UPT, Sunpath, etc
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I'm a 22 year old, 6' 420 lb male. I'm actually in excellent physical shape considering my size ...



No, you aren't. Stop deluding yourself.



agreed - lose the weight

and are you also willing to pay for 3 or 4 slots a jump (500 lb exit weight)

good luck, though, it's a great experience - you have a tough path to get there, however

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Is it possible, but here are just some of the challanges you are going to have to overcome:

1) Get a military supplier to sell you gear for your weight (yes, there is gear that can handle your exit weight)
2) Find a school that has aircraft that can handle your size.
3) Find a school willing to take on the extra liability
4) Find an instructor that is willing to teach you (and take on the liability)
5) Find an instructor that can fall as fast as you
6) Find an instructor that is willing to teach you a much more complicated process (essentially completely redesigning a first jump course)
7) Lots and lots and lots of money

So yes, you are right, it is possible, but it is NOT possible without lots of help, and that help might or might not be available to you.

If it is your dream then chase it.

Edit to add: While there are military suppliers that make gear to handle your exit weight....i seriously doubt any gear has ever been manufactured or even designed to handle your body type.
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