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When I saw that instructor in person and asked if they received my emails, the response was (verbatim): "Oh I just ignored the emails." :S



What's his name? :P Maybe a little public humiliation will shape 'em up. Hehe.


It could be a him or a her. ;) And no names will be given. :P


Drat! Smart cookie...

:D


Yes. I'm smarter then the average skydiver. :P


maybe THAT's the problem! :P
“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
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"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
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Rodney Dangerfield syndrome.

1600 jumps and I still get no respect at the dz.

Been there almost every weekend I could for the past 13 years.

Sorry I don't have any advice.:D



do you REALLY wonder!? :D
“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
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When I saw that instructor in person and asked if they received my emails, the response was (verbatim): "Oh I just ignored the emails." :S



What's his name? :P Maybe a little public humiliation will shape 'em up. Hehe.


It could be a him or a her. ;) And no names will be given. :P


Drat! Smart cookie...

:D


Yes. I'm smarter then the average skydiver. :P


maybe THAT's the problem! :P

:P Funny ;)

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When I saw that instructor in person and asked if they received my emails, the response was (verbatim): "Oh I just ignored the emails." :S



What's his name? :P Maybe a little public humiliation will shape 'em up. Hehe.


It could be a him or a her. ;) And no names will be given. :P


Drat! Smart cookie...

:D


Yes. I'm smarter then the average skydiver. :P


maybe THAT's the problem! :P

:P Funny ;)


if you're smarter, maybe you shouldnt skydive, AT ALL!!! :D:D:D
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When I saw that instructor in person and asked if they received my emails, the response was (verbatim): "Oh I just ignored the emails." :S



What's his name? :P Maybe a little public humiliation will shape 'em up. Hehe.


It could be a him or a her. ;) And no names will be given. :P


Drat! Smart cookie...

:D


Yes. I'm smarter than the average skydiver. :P


maybe THAT's the problem! :P

:P Funny ;)


if you're smarter, maybe you shouldnt skydive, AT ALL!!! :D:D:D


oh, and it's "THAN".. :)

maybe you're not SO smart after all; keep skydiving!!! :D:D:D
“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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For the record, I have 65 jumps, and received my license in January of last year. If I could jump every other weekend, or even every weekend once or twice...I would. :S



At first I'm thinking this was just a funny thread. I actually took the time to read through it all because, well I'm at work and getting paid to. After reading it the first time I wanted to jump on the one bandwagon that says if you don't come often enough then don't cry if you're not accepted. But then I re-read your initial post and thought about it. How many people actually get in more than 50 jumps in their first year anyway? I mean really, in the grand scheme of global skydiving (not just at the largest dropzones). Before you get your own gear, this sport is ridiculously expensive, even after you get your own gear, unless you have a rating, this sport is expensive (ratings cost big bucks too).

Turns out this post is not really about "am I a real skydiver if I don't jump as often as the other guy?". It's not even about, "my dad's passion is bigger than your dad's passion". If you read through most of the nonsense in this thread, you get the underlying issue. The OP has an issue with a couple of individuals at his dz and instead of dealing with them, he came on dz.com to harp about them without their perspective being presented fairly. Not cool in my opinion. Dave said it best when he mentioned that if you don't show commitment, most instructors (which are basically volunteers) won't take the time to help you. People come and go in this sport like bad smells. Why waste your time with someone who is not going to come back because "life got in the way" ?? Or maybe you do have instructors who are complete assholes, but that's not for dz.com to decide, you should confront people and tell them how you feel.

In the end, you can jump once a year if you like or once an hour. That's not what makes you part of the community. Your acceptance in the community is determined by how you present yourself when you ARE at the dz. I know plenty of people who visit the dz only a couple times a year, but they are humble and not cocky and know their limits and understand when no one wants to do a 10way on their first dive back from a 6 month layoff. Enjoy the sport at your own pace, and communicate with your dropzone peers/instructors. Don't come on here and talk smack.B|
You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed.

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For the record, I have 65 jumps, and received my license in January of last year. If I could jump every other weekend, or even every weekend once or twice...I would. :S



At first I'm thinking this was just a funny thread. I actually took the time to read through it all because, well I'm at work and getting paid to. After reading it the first time I wanted to jump on the one bandwagon that says if you don't come often enough then don't cry if you're not accepted. But then I re-read your initial post and thought about it. How many people actually get in more than 50 jumps in their first year anyway? I mean really, in the grand scheme of global skydiving (not just at the largest dropzones). Before you get your own gear, this sport is ridiculously expensive, even after you get your own gear, unless you have a rating, this sport is expensive (ratings cost big bucks too).

Turns out this post is not really about "am I a real skydiver if I don't jump as often as the other guy?". It's not even about, "my dad's passion is bigger than your dad's passion". If you read through most of the nonsense in this thread, you get the underlying issue. The OP has an issue with a couple of individuals at his dz and instead of dealing with them, he came on dz.com to harp about them without their perspective being presented fairly. Not cool in my opinion. Dave said it best when he mentioned that if you don't show commitment, most instructors (which are basically volunteers) won't take the time to help you. People come and go in this sport like bad smells. Why waste your time with someone who is not going to come back because "life got in the way" ?? Or maybe you do have instructors who are complete assholes, but that's not for dz.com to decide, you should confront people and tell them how you feel.

In the end, you can jump once a year if you like or once an hour. That's not what makes you part of the community. Your acceptance in the community is determined by how you present yourself when you ARE at the dz. I know plenty of people who visit the dz only a couple times a year, but they are humble and not cocky and know their limits and understand when no one wants to do a 10way on their first dive back from a 6 month layoff. Enjoy the sport at your own pace, and communicate with your dropzone peers/instructors. Don't come on here and talk smack.B|


I never said the instructors were assholes. I 'dealt' with them already, and the reason I posted on here is to see if any other people encountered anything similar. I'm not asking anyone to decide about the instructor, the DZ, myself, or any other factor in the equation.

In response to the bolded part of your above statement, I'm not asking anyone to waste time with me or pay all the attention to me when I'm at the DZ just a few times a month. All I'm asking for is a bit of common courtesy when I ask a question or two for the times that i am there.

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Great, but what I cannot understand . . . as an outsider reading your post on the internet from 1000's of miles away is . . . why are good instructors not answering the questions of a curious novice ?? The answer will not be found in your post, it will only be found in a dialogue between you and the individuals. Maybe you're the asshole, how am I to know ?:ph34r:

You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed.

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Great, but what I cannot understand . . . as an outsider reading your post on the internet from 1000's of miles away is . . . why are good instructors not answering the questions of a curious novice ?? The answer will not be found in your post, it will only be found in a dialogue between you and the individuals. Maybe you're the asshole, how am I to know ?:ph34r:



Ask Dave...he'll tell you whether I'm an asshole or not. :P

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You'll progress at your own pace, we all do. If someone is not answering your questions, don't go to them. This can't be any more simple. You said yourself your DZ has plenty of quality jumpers/instructors.

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Simple as that...and I'm surprised not all people understand that...skydivers are suppose to be flexible and understanding. ;)



But I'll tell you this, if you truly believe that statement you made, you're in for a good cry.:|
Skydivers are humans, and very weird humans at that.
You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed.

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... even though you never even tried a winter jump...

Dave

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Take it easy on the young guy.
Not everybody knows how to dress for winter jumps and not every body enjoys cold weather.
Also consider that if he lived north of Boston (e.g. Canada or Wisconsin), his DZ might have shut down for the winter.

Take this advice from a guy who did his lifetime quota of winter jumps a long time ago.
Hint: I needed those snowshoes on my army jump course, because I landed in snow drifts. Combine that with too many nights shivering in fox holes, and freezing my hands too many times, means that I am at risk of losing fingers if I freeze them too many more times.

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... even though you never even tried a winter jump...

Dave

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Take it easy on the young guy.
Not everybody knows how to dress for winter jumps and not every body enjoys cold weather.
Also consider that if he lived north of Boston (e.g. Canada or Wisconsin), his DZ might have shut down for the winter.

Take this advice from a guy who did his lifetime quota of winter jumps a long time ago.
Hint: I needed those snowshoes on my army jump course, because I landed in snow drifts. Combine that with too many nights shivering in fox holes, and freezing my hands too many times, means that I am at risk of losing fingers if I freeze them too many more times.


Thanks Rob. But, they don't take it easy on me in real life. Why should online be any different? ;)

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...if I spent 1/2 my life in sweaty spandex at a makeshift airport.



We definitely want to be exposed to that for as little time as possible!

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People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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It doesn't matter where you jump, go somewhere warm for a few jumps in the winter to stay current. I drive to Z-hills in the winter and this past February, 6 of us did a WEEKEND roadtrip from Toronto to Florida. Anyone care to bring up that passion argument again ??B|

It was DIRT cheap to split gas between 6 people and we even shared 1 motel room. Lasting memories are created from experiences like these.

Edited to add this link : http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3469296&id=124376830059

You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed.

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Left Thursday night at 10pm, arrived Friday night at 9pm. Jumped all day Saturday and all day Sunday and left Sunday after sunset 6:30pm. Arrived home Monday at about 10:30pm (snowstorm in Tenn). 6 friends in a van for 51 hours, wouldn't trade it for anything. Best skydiving trip hands down. Sometimes you gotta get a little crazy.
You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed.

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We took a non-stop trip like that from Upstate New York down to Z-Hills for a boogie, I think it was 1977. Unfortunately, when we were there, some girl no-pulled and went in. Landed on her back, as I recall. Left a big dent, to which we all paid homage with beer toasts.

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...there were a few skydivers on my DZ, that turned racking up jump numbers into a competition...10 years later, it seems that out of this group, I am the only one still in love with the sport and still jumping...
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Amen. I've always admired these guys and wished I could spend more time with them. A shame I couldn't jump more, but after all these years I still like everybody. Am still waiting for the day I decide I just don't want to do this anymore.

Cheers,
Jon

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