groundrush while landing

[d123 3]

Not sure where to put this one. It's mostly for swoopers.

I have friends that have "begin" swooping (directly to 90 degree turns) and live under the impression that the groundrush is normal thing.
I feel that groundrush, or just the fact that something is rushing at you translates to out-of-confort-zone/un-familiar speeds and I tend to stay away from it.

Do you swoopers still get the ground rush?

I'm looking into extending a bit the no wind/light downwind landings feel, but not swooping (90+ turns) per se and I'm considering using the "avoid the ground rush" as personal limit.
Cons or advices?

Regards,
Jean-Arthur Deda.

Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

[wildcard451 0]

I don't feel anything like a ground rush. When I do I don't consider it to me a good thing. Over the course of the last 3-400 jumps, I have developed a certain feel for the way things look as I am at different stages of my turn. I can see the difference in the initiation, back side of my turn, and my roll out if I am too high or too low and adjust accordingly.
The problem people run into is rushing the process and not developing this sight picture over time, and not realizing early enough that you are low to have time to fix it.
So, no ground rush here and I don't consider it to be a good thing.

/This is my first year venturing into competitive canopy flight. I'm sure there are others out there that can explain this better.

[cocheese 0]

Not sure what to call it, but my heart rate is probably highest at the middle of the final arc. A good surf can feel like time slows down... airgasmic.

But I don't know shit.

All i know is: There comes a time in some skydiver's life where the swoop is equal to or greater than the freefall. You're pretty much doomed after that. Ruined i tell ya!

[firstime 0]

me thinks you need to stay at a min of a 1:1 and do a bunch of straight in landings. Not many ppl are going to answer your question. When I see swooping high speed landings I say "some day..not today"

[d123 3]

> time slows down
I'm doing speedish 40 km/h downhill longboard on bamboo bords. A couple of times I've felt the same in downhill longboard. Spoke about it with different people and apparently that's the flow effect. From the words of Ayrton Senna:

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I was already on pole, [...] and I just kept going. Suddenly I was nearly two seconds faster than anybody else, including my team mate with the same car. And suddenly I realised that I was no longer driving the car consciously. I was driving it by a kind of instinct, only I was in a different dimension. It was like I was in a tunnel

In my longboard progression I've used the rush avoidance at all costs and it worked really nice.

Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

[cocheese 0]

The closer you get to the speed of light, the slower the time will flow.

[champu 1]

Are you familiar with the so called accuracy trick?

Basically it says if you're flying along under canopy and don't change anything (including winds) then where you're going to end up is the spot on the ground that isn't moving up or down in your field of view, but simply getting bigger.

Something similar can be observed once you've stopped turning to swoop and your canopy is recovering. The accuracy point will gradually move from roughly directly below you (where you put it by performing a diving turn) to out on the horizon in front of you (at which point you're flying horizontally over the ground.)

If the accuracy spot isn't moving "quickly enough" towards the horizon (what constitutes "quickly enough" depends on winds, canopy design, and wing loading) then you'll probably feel a bit of ground rush. If you don't do something about it, you'll just feel the ground itself.