BillyVance 34 #51 October 7, 2009 Quote Quote Since the court case proved without a doubt that Skyride... Billy: you really need to stop watching too much television. This is not how civil courts work. In civil cases, you do not need to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. Well excuse me for using the wrong words. Skydive Arizona won. Skyride lost. Score one for the good guys. Happy now?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndh1 0 #52 October 8, 2009 Quote the remster is correct. Tee-veeee shows focus on criminal cases, which are decided by the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of proof, unlike civil cases such as this one, which are decided by either "preponderance of evidence" or "clear and convincing evidence" standards of proof, both of which are very different than the reasonable doubt standard required from criminal cases. http://www.answers.com/topic/preponderance-of-evidence Speaking of people who owe her a big apology, are you the person (Robin Heid) who wrote the article last year in the now-gone-bye-bye Skydiving Magazine utterly slamming Jan?Roll Tide Roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #53 October 9, 2009 WELLL, my two bits before the *ss hole moderators band me again. OJ simplson, fucked up. no? People thought he got away with it. Then the judicial process started "hounding him",, Just a little bit at a time. VERY slowly,,,,,,,, Next thing you know,, he is back in court. With less money for lawyers to fight with. Next thing he goes to jail. When he comes out. I doubt,, that he will want to try and do a Maddox AGAIN. I imagine, that Bend over and Cary, are thinking this way too. I think, I'm going to try and get on the "visit list" at their jail. NAWWW,, Larry Hill may not get any money... but Gawd damn,,, thank you larry hill. I retire in three years for the second retirement and expect to spend some time and money on your drop zone.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #54 October 9, 2009 Where are all the sLyride supporters? I expected them to get in here and try to explain how they are right and the rest of the world is wrong... (note the operative word was "try" to explain) I mean c'mon guys, you've defended Cary through thick and thin up to now, is this the exception?Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #55 October 9, 2009 Their to busy trying to crawl out from under the bus now.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #56 October 9, 2009 Get a ROPE! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #57 October 9, 2009 Or a shovel and some lime. Relax folks, it is after all a natural fertilzer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #58 October 9, 2009 Or four horses and 4 lengths of rope. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #59 October 9, 2009 QuoteTheir to busy trying to crawl out from under the bus now. WHAT bus? a bus sounds like assets that might be discussed in a hotel room in Vegas.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumpdude 0 #60 October 10, 2009 This is an interesting quote in the SDAZ court document (page 6 line 3-11) that Jan posted that pretty much sums up why they got slammed in court; "The deceptive business practices were brought to the attention of Defendants repeatedly by representatives of the United States Parachute Association and others. Both Quattrocchi and Butler at different times said they did not want to change their deceptive websites, because they made more money with their deceptive web sites the way they were. Quattrocchi boasted that no one had the money to take him on in court. Quattrocchi and Butler intentionally pursued the deceptive scheme of deceptive web sites portraying fictitious skydiving centers nationwide because they made a lot of money deceiving customers in this scheme.."Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peanut4040 0 #61 October 10, 2009 QuoteThis is an interesting quote in the SDAZ court document (page 4 line 17-26) that Jan posted that pretty much sums up why they got slammed in court; "The deceptive business practices were brought to the attention of Defendants repeatedly by representatives of the United States Parachute Association and others. Both Quattrocchi and Butler at different times said they did not want to change their deceptive websites, because they made more money with their deceptive web sites the way they were. sigh,,, smile,,, if it was not such an "honor" in skydving circles,,,i'd say,,, them, them,,, but I can not do that for THEM Because, i have so much disrespect for THEMIts a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #62 October 10, 2009 I'd bet Cary Quattrocchi's not going to get the taste of Larry Hill's shoes out of his mouth any time soon. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites headoverheels 333 #63 October 10, 2009 You know, if they just hadn't been so dishonest and deceptive in their approach, and hosed customers left and right, there wouldn't be any successful lawsuits. We might think that the mass marketing is bad for some DZ's, and bitch and moan about them, but it would just be another face of the business. I mean, I bitch about Ticketmaster rip-off fees, but they do provide a service at a cost, without lying about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #64 October 10, 2009 Yep, If they had done it right every dz in the country would probably accept their certificates. But Cary is one of those people with a moral flaw that would not allow him to do it right. I truely don't believe he is capable of doing things the right way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumpdude 0 #65 October 10, 2009 I used to have the signature on my posts that was as follows; "All that evidence can't be wrong",, well,, I guess all that evidence was not wrong! The funny part was that some of the sLyride supporters that were over at Clarksville laughed their asses off at that and asked "What evidence?",,,, well, All the evidence and to the tune of 6.6m my ass off! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #66 October 10, 2009 Quote I used to have the signature on my posts that was as follows; "All that evidence can't be wrong",, well,, I guess all that evidence was not wrong! The funny part was that some of the sLyride supporters that were over at Clarksville laughed their asses off at that and asked "What evidence?",,,, well, All the evidence and to the tune of 6.6m my ass off! And now "they're" pretty much locked out of every airport in Tennessee. Nice, huh? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumpdude 0 #67 October 10, 2009 Quote And now "they're" pretty much locked out of every airport in Tennessee. Nice, huh? Well, that's the plan anyway. We just have to keep up putting out the education about their criminal businesss practices.Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumpdude 0 #68 October 10, 2009 I think they call that "Continued Education" Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MakeItHappen 15 #69 October 11, 2009 More details on http://funjumper.com/skyride/trial.php Plaintiff and Defendant witnesses and exhibits that were used. Jury Instructions and verdict form. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #70 October 12, 2009 Thank you for posting the info, especially the verdicts and monetary awards. Any word on the other issues that were to have been wrapped up this past week in court?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #71 October 16, 2009 QuoteMore details on http://funjumper.com/skyride/trial.php Plaintiff and Defendant witnesses and exhibits that were used. Jury Instructions and verdict form. . So, do you tihnk you can change your photo now or is the freedom of speech still in the works?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumpdude 0 #72 October 16, 2009 Quote Quote More details on http://funjumper.com/skyride/trial.php Plaintiff and Defendant witnesses and exhibits that were used. Jury Instructions and verdict form. . So, do you tihnk you can change your photo now or is the freedom of speech still in the works? I can't wait!!!!Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MakeItHappen 15 #73 October 16, 2009 QuoteSo, do you tihnk you can change your photo now or is the freedom of speech still in the works? You'll find out the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth in due time. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #74 October 19, 2009 Quote...Speaking of people who owe her a big apology, are you the person (Robin Heid) who wrote the article last year in the now-gone-bye-bye Skydiving Magazine utterly slamming Jan? 11 days...the silence is deafening.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #75 October 19, 2009 QuoteQuote...Speaking of people who owe her a big apology, are you the person (Robin Heid) who wrote the article last year in the now-gone-bye-bye Skydiving Magazine utterly slamming Jan? 11 days...the silence is deafening. Do you remember what issue it was? 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Jumpdude 0 #60 October 10, 2009 This is an interesting quote in the SDAZ court document (page 6 line 3-11) that Jan posted that pretty much sums up why they got slammed in court; "The deceptive business practices were brought to the attention of Defendants repeatedly by representatives of the United States Parachute Association and others. Both Quattrocchi and Butler at different times said they did not want to change their deceptive websites, because they made more money with their deceptive web sites the way they were. Quattrocchi boasted that no one had the money to take him on in court. Quattrocchi and Butler intentionally pursued the deceptive scheme of deceptive web sites portraying fictitious skydiving centers nationwide because they made a lot of money deceiving customers in this scheme.."Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #61 October 10, 2009 QuoteThis is an interesting quote in the SDAZ court document (page 4 line 17-26) that Jan posted that pretty much sums up why they got slammed in court; "The deceptive business practices were brought to the attention of Defendants repeatedly by representatives of the United States Parachute Association and others. Both Quattrocchi and Butler at different times said they did not want to change their deceptive websites, because they made more money with their deceptive web sites the way they were. sigh,,, smile,,, if it was not such an "honor" in skydving circles,,,i'd say,,, them, them,,, but I can not do that for THEM Because, i have so much disrespect for THEMIts a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #62 October 10, 2009 I'd bet Cary Quattrocchi's not going to get the taste of Larry Hill's shoes out of his mouth any time soon. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites headoverheels 333 #63 October 10, 2009 You know, if they just hadn't been so dishonest and deceptive in their approach, and hosed customers left and right, there wouldn't be any successful lawsuits. We might think that the mass marketing is bad for some DZ's, and bitch and moan about them, but it would just be another face of the business. I mean, I bitch about Ticketmaster rip-off fees, but they do provide a service at a cost, without lying about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #64 October 10, 2009 Yep, If they had done it right every dz in the country would probably accept their certificates. But Cary is one of those people with a moral flaw that would not allow him to do it right. I truely don't believe he is capable of doing things the right way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumpdude 0 #65 October 10, 2009 I used to have the signature on my posts that was as follows; "All that evidence can't be wrong",, well,, I guess all that evidence was not wrong! The funny part was that some of the sLyride supporters that were over at Clarksville laughed their asses off at that and asked "What evidence?",,,, well, All the evidence and to the tune of 6.6m my ass off! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #66 October 10, 2009 Quote I used to have the signature on my posts that was as follows; "All that evidence can't be wrong",, well,, I guess all that evidence was not wrong! The funny part was that some of the sLyride supporters that were over at Clarksville laughed their asses off at that and asked "What evidence?",,,, well, All the evidence and to the tune of 6.6m my ass off! And now "they're" pretty much locked out of every airport in Tennessee. Nice, huh? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumpdude 0 #67 October 10, 2009 Quote And now "they're" pretty much locked out of every airport in Tennessee. Nice, huh? Well, that's the plan anyway. We just have to keep up putting out the education about their criminal businesss practices.Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumpdude 0 #68 October 10, 2009 I think they call that "Continued Education" Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MakeItHappen 15 #69 October 11, 2009 More details on http://funjumper.com/skyride/trial.php Plaintiff and Defendant witnesses and exhibits that were used. Jury Instructions and verdict form. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #70 October 12, 2009 Thank you for posting the info, especially the verdicts and monetary awards. Any word on the other issues that were to have been wrapped up this past week in court?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #71 October 16, 2009 QuoteMore details on http://funjumper.com/skyride/trial.php Plaintiff and Defendant witnesses and exhibits that were used. Jury Instructions and verdict form. . So, do you tihnk you can change your photo now or is the freedom of speech still in the works?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumpdude 0 #72 October 16, 2009 Quote Quote More details on http://funjumper.com/skyride/trial.php Plaintiff and Defendant witnesses and exhibits that were used. Jury Instructions and verdict form. . So, do you tihnk you can change your photo now or is the freedom of speech still in the works? I can't wait!!!!Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MakeItHappen 15 #73 October 16, 2009 QuoteSo, do you tihnk you can change your photo now or is the freedom of speech still in the works? You'll find out the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth in due time. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #74 October 19, 2009 Quote...Speaking of people who owe her a big apology, are you the person (Robin Heid) who wrote the article last year in the now-gone-bye-bye Skydiving Magazine utterly slamming Jan? 11 days...the silence is deafening.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #75 October 19, 2009 QuoteQuote...Speaking of people who owe her a big apology, are you the person (Robin Heid) who wrote the article last year in the now-gone-bye-bye Skydiving Magazine utterly slamming Jan? 11 days...the silence is deafening. Do you remember what issue it was? I'd like to go review it."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 3 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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BillyVance 34 #62 October 10, 2009 I'd bet Cary Quattrocchi's not going to get the taste of Larry Hill's shoes out of his mouth any time soon. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #63 October 10, 2009 You know, if they just hadn't been so dishonest and deceptive in their approach, and hosed customers left and right, there wouldn't be any successful lawsuits. We might think that the mass marketing is bad for some DZ's, and bitch and moan about them, but it would just be another face of the business. I mean, I bitch about Ticketmaster rip-off fees, but they do provide a service at a cost, without lying about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #64 October 10, 2009 Yep, If they had done it right every dz in the country would probably accept their certificates. But Cary is one of those people with a moral flaw that would not allow him to do it right. I truely don't believe he is capable of doing things the right way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #65 October 10, 2009 I used to have the signature on my posts that was as follows; "All that evidence can't be wrong",, well,, I guess all that evidence was not wrong! The funny part was that some of the sLyride supporters that were over at Clarksville laughed their asses off at that and asked "What evidence?",,,, well, All the evidence and to the tune of 6.6m my ass off! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #66 October 10, 2009 Quote I used to have the signature on my posts that was as follows; "All that evidence can't be wrong",, well,, I guess all that evidence was not wrong! The funny part was that some of the sLyride supporters that were over at Clarksville laughed their asses off at that and asked "What evidence?",,,, well, All the evidence and to the tune of 6.6m my ass off! And now "they're" pretty much locked out of every airport in Tennessee. Nice, huh? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #67 October 10, 2009 Quote And now "they're" pretty much locked out of every airport in Tennessee. Nice, huh? Well, that's the plan anyway. We just have to keep up putting out the education about their criminal businesss practices.Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #68 October 10, 2009 I think they call that "Continued Education" Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakeItHappen 15 #69 October 11, 2009 More details on http://funjumper.com/skyride/trial.php Plaintiff and Defendant witnesses and exhibits that were used. Jury Instructions and verdict form. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #70 October 12, 2009 Thank you for posting the info, especially the verdicts and monetary awards. Any word on the other issues that were to have been wrapped up this past week in court?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #71 October 16, 2009 QuoteMore details on http://funjumper.com/skyride/trial.php Plaintiff and Defendant witnesses and exhibits that were used. Jury Instructions and verdict form. . So, do you tihnk you can change your photo now or is the freedom of speech still in the works?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #72 October 16, 2009 Quote Quote More details on http://funjumper.com/skyride/trial.php Plaintiff and Defendant witnesses and exhibits that were used. Jury Instructions and verdict form. . So, do you tihnk you can change your photo now or is the freedom of speech still in the works? I can't wait!!!!Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakeItHappen 15 #73 October 16, 2009 QuoteSo, do you tihnk you can change your photo now or is the freedom of speech still in the works? You'll find out the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth in due time. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #74 October 19, 2009 Quote...Speaking of people who owe her a big apology, are you the person (Robin Heid) who wrote the article last year in the now-gone-bye-bye Skydiving Magazine utterly slamming Jan? 11 days...the silence is deafening.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #75 October 19, 2009 QuoteQuote...Speaking of people who owe her a big apology, are you the person (Robin Heid) who wrote the article last year in the now-gone-bye-bye Skydiving Magazine utterly slamming Jan? 11 days...the silence is deafening. Do you remember what issue it was? I'd like to go review it."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
