jigneshsoni 0 #1 June 12, 2005 I am really confused here about this. I have heard conflicting things about this. Basically I want to know at what point will I do solo jumping without supervision? i.e. which will cost me 15-25$ per jump if I get my own gear. I have got 2 answers: 1) I have to get my A License. 2) I don't have to get A License. A License is not mandatory to jump by yourself without supervision. It's just an option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookncrater 0 #2 June 12, 2005 It's hard to answer that if no one even knows what country you live in.________________________________________________________________________________ when in doubt... hook it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRYANGOESBOOM 0 #3 June 12, 2005 go thru aff and your coach jumps then you only have to pay for the lift to altitude where r they doing $15 jumps ????? i wana go Not only will you look better, feel better, and fuck better; you'll have significantly increased your life expectancy. --Douva Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sd-slider 0 #4 June 12, 2005 I was soloing after AFF (8 jumps) in US. They call it "Self Instruction" until you get your "A".Anvil Brother #69 Sidelined with a 5mm C5-C6 herniated disk... Back2Back slammers and 40yr old fat guys don't mix! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voodew1 0 #5 June 13, 2005 At our DZ once you have done your 7 AFF jumps you are cleared for self supervision --- if you have your own gear which most do not at jump 8 it would cost you 19.00 to rent gear and make more than 3 jumps in a day it would cost you $35.00 per jump. That includes pack job, gear rental, and jump ticket Total cost of AFF if you pass all levels will be around $1100.00 The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #6 June 13, 2005 In Canada, a Solo Certificate allows you to jump without an instructor. To earn a Solo Certificate, you must do a minimum of 10 jumps, including graduating PFF, doing a "ride the slide" exit (from 10,000 feet) and a hop-and-pop from 3,500'. After a short oral quiz, you are free to jump alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeth 0 #7 June 13, 2005 QuoteI was soloing after AFF (8 jumps) in US. They call it "Self Instruction" until you get your "A". It depends on the dz and the program. At my dz we have AFP, which is 20 jumps. You can't go solo till U graduate from that. Basically, whatever the program, when you are "off student status" you can jump solo for the cheaper price (plus gear rental unless you have your own)."At 13,000 feet nothing else matters." PFRX!!!!! Team Funnel #174, Sunshine kisspass #109 My Jump Site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #8 June 13, 2005 QuoteIn Canada, a Solo Certificate allows you to jump without an instructor. To earn a Solo Certificate, you must do a minimum of 10 jumps, including graduating PFF, doing a "ride the slide" exit (from 10,000 feet) and a hop-and-pop from 3,500'. After a short oral quiz, you are free to jump alone.That's the status I am now on. I've also completed most of the A objectives, but I need to own my own rig for my pack training before I finally get A and hopefully B too shortly thereafter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #9 June 13, 2005 QuoteThat's the status I am now on. I've also completed most of the A objectives, but I need to own my own rig for my pack training before I finally get A and hopefully B too shortly thereafter. You can't meet the pack requirement on a rental? Why? So much time passed between me meeting that req and my rig being bought and ready to go that I needed a friend to give me a refresher course. It would have sucked to have been on student status all that time. Are you restricted to jumping with coach types until the A in Canada? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #10 June 13, 2005 There's a bit more to the "solo" requirements then Rob mentioned.... To my knowlage you can get your A Cop on student gear.....but that will depend on the DZ and there policy on who can pack student gear....I have my main packing endorsment but am still learning how to pro pack(have been flat packing student gear for years) Solo lic jumpers can only jump with a coach 2 for RW work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #11 June 14, 2005 QuoteYou can't meet the pack requirement on a rental? Why?Dropzone has a policy of not pack-training on rental gear. This is pretty common at many dropzones in this country. I could travel, but... There's not enough parachutes to go around, plus there are obvious safety concerns about renting out a beginner packjob. Or maybe I should buy a beater rig today with a retired canopy, just for ground training only and donate it as a training harness. But, hey, at least I'm getting free RW coaching! So that kind of makes up for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #12 June 14, 2005 QuoteOr maybe I should buy a beater rig today with a retired canopy, just for ground training only and donate it as a training harness. Bah....you pack it you jump it Quoteplus there are obvious safety concerns about renting out a beginner packjob. Hopefully the beginner will be properly supervised before being allowed to jump it or put the rig on someone elses back ....I have no problems with jumping a rig packed by someone learning to pack....as they are closely supervised at my home DZ. Why dont you ask a instructor if you can watch and learn packing from them.....I am presently learning how to pro pack (finally got my own gear Warning !!!!......I am a newbie ....I know squat...only listen to my advise under the direct supervision of a instructor!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #13 June 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteYou can't meet the pack requirement on a rental? Why?Dropzone has a policy of not pack-training on rental gear. This is pretty common at many dropzones in this country. I could travel, but... There's not enough parachutes to go around, plus there are obvious safety concerns about renting out a beginner packjob. You don't rent out the pack job - you jump it. When you're done for the day, you pay the packers. And now it's fine for the next fellow. For the DZs that don't charge and give you a packing ticket for every jump, it's typical to just require you pay for the last one. A few rent out the rigs in an unpacked state - I hated that because it meant more time before jump 1, but it simplified the end of the day. I can see the problem with taking the rig out of commission during jumping hours. My training was on an old unjumpable rig until it was time to pack my rental. (It sucked going from a well used 7 cell 190 to a 9 cell 265) But it could also be done in bad weather, or in the evening hours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #14 June 14, 2005 That's not the reason usually. They generally don't want to chance having the rental rig damaged with a hard opening, or chance a reserve deployment, or the canopy lost due to a cutaway.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #15 June 14, 2005 Graduate off of student status and you can jump solo at your dropzone without supervision. Travel to another dropzone and then you will need your A license to prove you're able to jump without the aid of an instructor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #16 June 14, 2005 QuoteThat's not the reason usually. They generally don't want to chance having the rental rig damaged with a hard opening, or chance a reserve deployment, or the canopy lost due to a cutaway. Isn't that why they have someone supervising the packing? Cutaways and reserve use can happen anyway with student gear, and I tell you, *every* opening I had at Monterey with the PD300 seemed pretty hard. I was responsible for any damage done, so they were covered (unless I was a scumbag about it). I believe in the value of the packing requirement for the initial license, even though I went back to packers for 7 months until I had my own rig. I just don't think it's fair to students to leave them on student status until they can get their's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites