EricTheRed 0 #1 March 4, 2005 Anyone know how long a pilot needs to wait to fly after taking codiene containing cough syrup? Thanks for any references.illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Groundbound 0 #2 March 5, 2005 Have you tried the AOPA site? If you are a member, they have 'medical savvy' personnel who could give you a reference. I have often heard and use; "Twice the dosing interval" So if a drug says give every 4 hours, wait 8hrs after the last dose. Not gospel but has proven to be safe for me. A. Pilot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #3 March 5, 2005 The only thing you'll get in writing from the FAA is FAR 91.17 : "No person may act or attempt to act as a crewmember of a civil aircraft while using any drug that affects the persons faculties in any way contrary to safety." The same FAR uses the 8 hour bottle to throttle rule, where as the military uses a 12 and (as I understand it) commercial airlines a 10. Up to you to decide when you can safely fly. I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #4 March 5, 2005 QuoteHave you tried the AOPA site? If you are a member, they have 'medical savvy' personnel who could give you a reference. I have often heard and use; "Twice the dosing interval" So if a drug says give every 4 hours, wait 8hrs after the last dose. Not gospel but has proven to be safe for me. A. Pilot btw, codeine is a 3-6 hour drug, so this would indicate 12 hours. Again this isn't the FAA ruling, you will never know their ruling until they yank your license. I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #5 March 5, 2005 Why do you want to know? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skylord 1 #6 March 5, 2005 QuoteAnyone know how long a pilot needs to wait to fly after taking codiene containing cough syrup? Thanks for any references. Eric, I'm treating this as cough syrup with codeine...(rare exception to the "I before E except after C" rule) I've spent the last hour combing through the FAA sites and the member only AOPA site, and I cannot find a single reference to codeine use. I do know that as an air traffic controller I MUST report to my supervisor if I take Tylenol with codeine, and I THINK I'm down for the next 24 hours. I do have a hard copy of the FAA Flight Surgeon's guidance on every drug known to the planet, but it is apparently not available online so I have to look it up in my office. Next, the "bottle to throttle" rule is still technically applicable, but ever since the advent of on duty alcohol tasting for us controllers, any test over .02 gets us pulled off duty. So, while I may be legal by the eight hour rule, if I am totally bombed at midnight, I could STILL bust the limits at 8 a.m. and be in big trouble. If this is important, PM me, and I'll look it up Monday with an answer that morning....... Bob I really am from the FAA and I'm really here to help!Bob Marks "-when you leave the airplane its all wrong til it goes right, its a whole different mindset, this is why you have system redundancy." Mattaman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #7 March 5, 2005 While that may all be valid for controllers, it doesn't necessarily hold for pilots. The FAA publishes no specific hours, aside from the alcohol one, so the only published guidance (officially from the FAA) is what is provided above. Recommendations will be all over from flight surgeons to AOPA, but that doesn't equate to FAA ruling. I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skylord 1 #8 March 5, 2005 True, but then state's rights take over on the alcohol side, which is how that Northwest pilot and those America West pilots were arrested. There was another case two weeks ago with a private pilot who was arrested for being under the influence and while the eight hour rule could have been applied, the feds deferred to the state alcohol intoxication rules. Your point is well taken and very interesting, my friend. Let me check it out a bit more.......thanks! BobBob Marks "-when you leave the airplane its all wrong til it goes right, its a whole different mindset, this is why you have system redundancy." Mattaman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #9 March 5, 2005 ... but ever since the advent of on duty alcohol tasting for us controllers, ... reply] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right on! Now I want to become an ATC. Perhaps we should start the evening shift with a Chateau Mouton Rothschilde 1962? Hee! Hee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skylord 1 #10 March 5, 2005 Ooops. "Testing", not "tasting" "Today's air traffic control services are provided courtesy of Jose Cuervo." BobBob Marks "-when you leave the airplane its all wrong til it goes right, its a whole different mindset, this is why you have system redundancy." Mattaman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #11 March 5, 2005 I'd prefer Mr J Daniel or Mr J Beam!!!...... Beam me up Scotty!!.....My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumper-Dumper 0 #12 May 27, 2005 QuoteAnyone know how long a pilot needs to wait to fly after taking codiene containing cough syrup? Thanks for any references. You worried about me? C'mon Red...you know I prefer whiskey! PD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
