JustinR 0 #1 June 15, 2009 Does anyone know of any good ones? I'm interested to see what's available. Thanks, J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #2 June 15, 2009 It's hard to improve upon this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 41 #3 June 15, 2009 I use this: http://www.paralog.net/ Lots of great features."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #4 June 15, 2009 +1 on Paralog. Nothing out there is capable of doing all that it does in one stand alone piece of SW. Plus the SW writer is a skydiver and also posts here. Best money you can spend on log book SW."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph_W 0 #5 June 15, 2009 http://www.l-and-b.dk/jumptrack3.htmlSilence is golden. www.bt-ag.ch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #6 June 15, 2009 An important consideration is if you will be importing data from an altimeter, and if so, the brand you have. I use an AltiTrack with JumpTrack software, and am able to transfer data easily into my computer with the USB cable that came with the software. My understanding is that the L&B products do not interact with ParaLog software, so that would not be a good choice for me. I am pleased with the combination I have, as the extra data I obtain is very useful, as are the charts and graphs I can see with the program.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettski74 0 #7 June 15, 2009 Quote It's hard to improve upon this one. That's a hardware logbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 41 #8 June 15, 2009 QuoteAn important consideration is if you will be importing data from an altimeter, and if so, the brand you have. I use an AltiTrack with JumpTrack software, and am able to transfer data easily into my computer with the USB cable that came with the software. My understanding is that the L&B products do not interact with ParaLog software, so that would not be a good choice for me. I am pleased with the combination I have, as the extra data I obtain is very useful, as are the charts and graphs I can see with the program. Says here that it works with Protrack from L & B http://www.paralog.net/desktop.html Might want to check out the compatibility page http://www.paralog.net/prerequisites.html"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettski74 0 #9 June 15, 2009 QuoteSays here that it works with Protrack from L & B http://www.paralog.net/desktop.html What about Alti-Track? If I recall correctly, Pro-Track used a serial interface. Alti-track is USB with a special dongle between the unit and the USB port. You get Jump-Track 3.0 for free with the USB cable and dongle. Some of the features look nice - particularly Linux support for geeks like me. It would be nice if it supported the Alti-Track USB download. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 41 #10 June 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteSays here that it works with Protrack from L & B http://www.paralog.net/desktop.html What about Alti-Track? If I recall correctly, Pro-Track used a serial interface. Alti-track is USB with a special dongle between the unit and the USB port. You get Jump-Track 3.0 for free with the USB cable and dongle. Some of the features look nice - particularly Linux support for geeks like me. It would be nice if it supported the Alti-Track USB download. From the Paralog FAQ http://www.paralog.net/faq.html Q - Does Paralog support the AltiTrak? A - No. Unfortunately, L&B has decided not to disclose the communication protocol."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 June 15, 2009 Quote Quote It's hard to improve upon this one. That's a hardware logbook. But it has a softback cover! So it's softback hardware? I'm confused... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinR 0 #12 June 15, 2009 is there nothing yet for the iphone? I noticed that Altitrack uses bluetooth whereas the rest seem to be tied by USB to the desktop. Does anyone know if any other manufacturers are going to upgrade their systems to also use bluetooth? Is paralog going to create an iphone app? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlucus 0 #13 June 16, 2009 Quoteis there nothing yet for the iphone? I noticed that Altitrack uses bluetooth whereas the rest seem to be tied by USB to the desktop. Does anyone know if any other manufacturers are going to upgrade their systems to also use bluetooth? Is paralog going to create an iphone app? My Alti-Track has BlueTooth? Since when? I for one would a love a Linux version of JumpTrack or something that can import from the Alti-Track. My netbook that I take to the DZ runs Ubuntu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bofh 0 #14 September 27, 2009 Quote From the Paralog FAQ http://www.paralog.net/faq.html Q - Does Paralog support the AltiTrak? A - No. Unfortunately, L&B has decided not to disclose the communication protocol. I read that and decided to have a look to see if I could figure it out... First of all I cracked open my USB-Track and saw that they use a chip from FTDI (FT232BT if I remember correctly), an usb to serial interface. There are standard device drivers for both linux and Mac OSX to communicate with that chip, giving a tty-interface. On my Mac, I downloaded FTDI's VCP driver (http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm) and then I had to change some file (something like /System/Library/extensions/FTDI*/Info.plist) to associate the driver with L&B's manufacturer id (4056) and product id (1). I ended up with a file called something like /dev/cu.usb-serial.872346 On my linux box there already was a driver supplied with the kernel, so I just had to load it with: sudo modprobe ftdi_sio vendor=4056 product=1 and I got a /dev/ttyUSB0 On windows a COM4 appeared with the supplied drivers. On my windows box I noticed that when L&B's software talked to the Alti-Track, they used 115200 8N1, no flow control and the commands being sent were simple ASCII strings, with CR as end-of-line character (for the commands, CR LF for the returned strings). I connected to the device with a terminal program (minicom on the linux box) and sent "Help" to the device. In return I got a nice description of the commands it understands and descriptions of what one will get back from those commands. Worth noting is that the commands need to be sent with the correct case (ie "help" will not work). The protocol is really simple and the documentation is great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bip 0 #15 September 27, 2009 Quoteis there nothing yet for the iphone? Quote I use an altitrack. Once downloaded I open up the access file and choose the fields I want. Then I load it up to my Iphone with "Wireless Database Viewer Plus". Works a treat. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=144475&id=723398901&l=1da2e68696 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #16 September 27, 2009 I just ordered a sweet Syzygy So I can log with style. Plus, the owner of the company is a skydiver. He filmed my 1st jump!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SansSuit 1 #17 September 28, 2009 Quote I read that and decided to have a look to see if I could figure it out... First of all I cracked open my USB-Track and saw that they use a chip from FTDI (FT232BT if I remember correctly), an usb to serial interface. There are standard device drivers for both linux and Mac OSX to communicate with that chip, giving a tty-interface. On my Mac, I downloaded FTDI's VCP driver (http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm) and then I had to change some file (something like /System/Library/extensions/FTDI*/Info.plist) to associate the driver with L&B's manufacturer id (4056) and product id (1). I ended up with a file called something like /dev/cu.usb-serial.872346 On my linux box there already was a driver supplied with the kernel, so I just had to load it with: sudo modprobe ftdi_sio vendor=4056 product=1 and I got a /dev/ttyUSB0 On windows a COM4 appeared with the supplied drivers. On my windows box I noticed that when L&B's software talked to the Alti-Track, they used 115200 8N1, no flow control and the commands being sent were simple ASCII strings, with CR as end-of-line character (for the commands, CR LF for the returned strings). I connected to the device with a terminal program (minicom on the linux box) and sent "Help" to the device. In return I got a nice description of the commands it understands and descriptions of what one will get back from those commands. Worth noting is that the commands need to be sent with the correct case (ie "help" will not work). The protocol is really simple and the documentation is great. I understood all of that, right up to the part where you said, "First of all ........"Peace, -Dawson. http://www.SansSuit.com The Society for the Advancement of Naked Skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Harmless 0 #18 September 28, 2009 great work... now your name makes sense too."Damn you Gravity, you win again" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites danielcroft 2 #19 September 28, 2009 I understood all of that but still found it funny that you said you "noticed" that it was 115200 8N1... how do you just "notice" that stuff? It's a shame there isn't some kind of standard when it comes to comms and altis... ah pipe dreams. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peek 21 #20 September 28, 2009 QuoteI read that and decided to have a look to see if I could figure it out... Good work! Thank you for making this information available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bofh 0 #21 September 28, 2009 I have a little program that shows all activities on a serial port... I don't have windows running right now so I can see what its name is. It was one of the first hits on google when I searched for a serial port snooper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites danielcroft 2 #22 September 28, 2009 Yeah, fair enough, just thought that it was funny that you made it seem like it was no big deal when a lot of people have issues finding the "any" key. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
jtval 0 #16 September 27, 2009 I just ordered a sweet Syzygy So I can log with style. Plus, the owner of the company is a skydiver. He filmed my 1st jump!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SansSuit 1 #17 September 28, 2009 Quote I read that and decided to have a look to see if I could figure it out... First of all I cracked open my USB-Track and saw that they use a chip from FTDI (FT232BT if I remember correctly), an usb to serial interface. There are standard device drivers for both linux and Mac OSX to communicate with that chip, giving a tty-interface. On my Mac, I downloaded FTDI's VCP driver (http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm) and then I had to change some file (something like /System/Library/extensions/FTDI*/Info.plist) to associate the driver with L&B's manufacturer id (4056) and product id (1). I ended up with a file called something like /dev/cu.usb-serial.872346 On my linux box there already was a driver supplied with the kernel, so I just had to load it with: sudo modprobe ftdi_sio vendor=4056 product=1 and I got a /dev/ttyUSB0 On windows a COM4 appeared with the supplied drivers. On my windows box I noticed that when L&B's software talked to the Alti-Track, they used 115200 8N1, no flow control and the commands being sent were simple ASCII strings, with CR as end-of-line character (for the commands, CR LF for the returned strings). I connected to the device with a terminal program (minicom on the linux box) and sent "Help" to the device. In return I got a nice description of the commands it understands and descriptions of what one will get back from those commands. Worth noting is that the commands need to be sent with the correct case (ie "help" will not work). The protocol is really simple and the documentation is great. I understood all of that, right up to the part where you said, "First of all ........"Peace, -Dawson. http://www.SansSuit.com The Society for the Advancement of Naked Skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmless 0 #18 September 28, 2009 great work... now your name makes sense too."Damn you Gravity, you win again" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danielcroft 2 #19 September 28, 2009 I understood all of that but still found it funny that you said you "noticed" that it was 115200 8N1... how do you just "notice" that stuff? It's a shame there isn't some kind of standard when it comes to comms and altis... ah pipe dreams. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peek 21 #20 September 28, 2009 QuoteI read that and decided to have a look to see if I could figure it out... Good work! Thank you for making this information available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bofh 0 #21 September 28, 2009 I have a little program that shows all activities on a serial port... I don't have windows running right now so I can see what its name is. It was one of the first hits on google when I searched for a serial port snooper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danielcroft 2 #22 September 28, 2009 Yeah, fair enough, just thought that it was funny that you made it seem like it was no big deal when a lot of people have issues finding the "any" key. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
