fasted3 0 #1 May 23, 2009 What are your requirements to be considered an expert? How many jumps? Any other requirements?But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jverley 1 #2 May 23, 2009 It seems to be anyone with more than two jumps when pontificating in either: a) A bar b) an internet forum Expertise comes in many forms and skydiving has many disciplines. An expert in Belly-RW may not be the expert in VRW or Canopy piloting.John Arizona Hiking Trails Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #3 May 23, 2009 Two jumps!!! I've had expert advice from people that NEVER jumped -------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #4 May 23, 2009 QuoteWhat are your requirements to be considered an expert? How many jumps? Any other requirements? You can always tell an Expert.....but ya can't tell 'em much! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #5 May 23, 2009 I see what you're talking about, but I meant in a more general way. For example, some of the DZ commers are expert skydivers in my eyes even though I don't know the details of their skills. Then there is one case I remember reading about that referred to an 'expert' skydiver with something like 75 jumps under his belt. I suspect that most of us would be skeptical of that. Oh yes, I am definately an expert myself when I'm in a bar. Otherwise no.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #6 May 23, 2009 Were your ears burning?But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #7 May 23, 2009 Quote Were your ears burning? Oh HELL no! My 'expertise' is in longevity in the sport because of a decidedly conservative approach...doesn't seem to be a lotta call for that kind of advise these days. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #8 May 23, 2009 Quote It seems to be anyone with more than two jumps when pontificating in either: a) A bar b) an internet forum Sweet that includes me. I havent been lieing all these years. Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_K 0 #9 May 24, 2009 Quote ..doesn't seem to be a lotta call for that kind of advise these days. Well don't stop, there are some of us out here that are still listening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Croc 0 #10 May 25, 2009 When I was working on my A license I thought that everyone with a D was an expert. Then I got my D. Ain't no experts here. "Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #11 May 25, 2009 Oh we are all experts here. And in the bar too. But seriously... Having given this some thought, here's what I think. Lots of jumps - Maybe Gets paid to skydive - Probably Gets paid to watch other people skydive - For sure But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #12 May 25, 2009 The longer I jump, the more I learn, but the greater the amount to learn becomes. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #13 May 25, 2009 "Then there is one case I remember reading about that referred to an 'expert' skydiver with something like 75 jumps under his belt. I suspect that most of us would be skeptical of that. ......................................................................... Do you believe everything you read in the newspapers? Tee! Hee! Seriously, whenever there is a skydiving accident, journalists feel compelled to write a standard series of phrases "parachute failed, plummeting to his death, from a great height, ... etc." Whether those phrases relate to today's accident is irrelevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeGerwig 0 #15 May 27, 2009 there is no such thing. there is just someone who knows more than you but you have to know the how to tell if what they are telling you is true or a pile of manure. and if you can do that then you are. you can be reasonabley sure that if they don't advertise that they are and they have a lifetime of experience that just shines through everything they do then they more than likely are as much an expert as anyone could be. I think the bottom line is experience and the ability to learn from it and pass it on. This goes for all disciplines of the sport Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #16 May 27, 2009 I have a different take on this one... You're only an expert when you're no longer a student. And, more importantly, no one should ever stop being a student! The day you consider yourself an expert is the day you stop learning. Be a Lifelong Student of the sport!!!Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slyde 0 #17 May 27, 2009 QuoteWhat are your requirements to be considered an expert? The requirement to be considered an expert is simply to BE considered. You see what you want to see ~n all that rot. You might learn to trust those who are able to say "I don't know." And you are fortunate when they add: "... but I can find out for you." (It's a hint that the speaker wants you to stick around.) You speak as an expert, I believe, only when you are connected to the origin of the knowledge you share. References, baby. If he can't say where he got it, she can't say where it has been. Better wash your hands. Do not be afraid to ask. "How do you know that?" and/or "Are you sure about that?" or even: "Who told you THAT?!" "Just remember where you came from, Mark." Joe Smith, 1982A Peace Prize within minutes of Bombing the Moon. Coincidence? "Beware the Military Industrial Complex." You GO Ike! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BCA 1 #18 May 27, 2009 You would be considered an expert when you no longer buy beer for any reason whatsoever and no one on the dz challenges you for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #19 May 27, 2009 Quote You would be considered an expert when you no longer buy beer for any reason whatsoever and no one on the dz challenges you for it. No more calls folks....we have a WINNER! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 0 #20 May 29, 2009 QuoteWhat are your requirements to be considered an expert? How many jumps? Any other requirements? No such thing, unless you want to call a skydiver with a PRO rating an expert. Personally the criteria I'd have for an expert is 20,000 skydives, PRO rating, damn good at belly, sit, head down, tunnel flying in all disciplines, great at wing suit flying and sky surfing & base jumping with at least 1000 jumps in each after becoming "great at it". Also must be damn good at canopy flying, swooping, had at least 100 reserve rides intentionally, etc. Way too many criteria to be called an "expert" imo.Rodriguez Brother #1614, Muff Brother #4033 Jumped: Twin Otter, Cessna 182, CASA, Helicopter, Caravan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #21 May 29, 2009 QuoteWhat is an Expert Skydiver? Depends. How long is a string? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlucus 0 #22 May 29, 2009 Quote Quote What is an Expert Skydiver? Depends. How long is a string? 2147483648 Unicode characters.... for VB that is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWoerner 0 #23 May 29, 2009 I put this quote I came up with in my 8th grade year book: "The more you know, the more you know you need to know more." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
