MADPROPS 0 #1 January 23, 2009 read b4 answering the poll plz I have been launching my hellracer 12.7m (135ft) from foot and ski's I have maybe about 150 landings on the hellracer and most of them are stand up. I would say about 90% i have landed down hill, up hill, on the side of a hill, and on flat the wing loading is a bit higher then it would be skydiving cuz of ski's and lots of clothes, or big boots and lots of clothes. my last 50 or so were foot launching of a cliff on to flat ground. i have 49 jumps skydiving and all be 3 have been stand up landings. i have a ton of fun on my hellracer and i'm thinking that going back to my monarch might be a bit boring so if you had your own dz and you were the boss what would you say ?? ps your dz is a small cessna dz won't let me change spelling on polllive and let live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #2 January 23, 2009 If it were my dz, no. Not because I don't think you can land it safely, but because you have very little experience flying any parachute in traffic. Hurt yourself, okay. Hurt someone else, not okay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MADPROPS 0 #3 January 23, 2009 Quote If it were my dz, no. Not because I don't think you can land it safely, but because you have very little experience flying any parachute in traffic. Hurt yourself, okay. Hurt someone else, not okay. ok that sounds fare .. now lets say its a small c206 dz that you own live and let live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #4 January 23, 2009 Quotenow lets say its a small c206 dz that you own Same answer. Read the incidents forum - how many recent canopy collisions happened with only two canopies in the air? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #5 January 23, 2009 I would evaluate you, and have you jump progressively smaller canopies as long as I feel you are handling them by skill, and not by luck. I would also put you out on a hop'n'pop for those jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MADPROPS 0 #6 January 23, 2009 QuoteI would evaluate you, and have you jump progressively smaller canopies as long as I feel you are handling them by skill, and not by luck. I would also put you out on a hop'n'pop for those jumps. why a hop and pop??live and let live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #7 January 23, 2009 Quotei have a ton of fun on my hellracer and i'm thinking that going back to my monarch might be a bit boring Skydiving boring? GL it then...Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MADPROPS 0 #8 January 23, 2009 QuoteQuotei have a ton of fun on my hellracer and i'm thinking that going back to my monarch might be a bit boring Skydiving boring? GL it then... i do just about every chance i get but its not the same as hanging out at the dz but i still plan on having fun in the rockyslive and let live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 41 #9 January 23, 2009 Guess which way I voted, after you dissed me for not jumping with you "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MADPROPS 0 #10 January 23, 2009 Quote Guess which way I voted, after you dissed me for not jumping with you how could you vote that way. after seeing my mad skills live and let live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #11 January 23, 2009 If you jump a smaller and/or more HP canopy, besides landing skills, you'll also need to be a much better packer, open stable and on heading much better otherwise you'll get linetwists or worse much more easily, a malfunction eats up way more alti way quicker when you have a diving small canopy to deal with compared to a bigger square one, and like mentioned before flying through traffic it all happens faster. If you want somthing more fun to fly than your monarch why not get a same size canopy but a semi-elip like a safire 169, pilot 168, sabre2 170, fusion 170, of which the sabre2 and the fusion are the most HP. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #12 January 23, 2009 Ask the seasoned veterans you jump with; especially the instructors." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chubba 0 #13 January 23, 2009 Quotewhy a hop and pop?? Our CI always puts new canopies out low. You got a specific goal to focus on, short ride to altitude, no other distractions and little to no traffic. Perhaps likestojump has another reason, but that's ours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #14 January 23, 2009 so if you had your own dz and you were the boss what would you say ?? Would depend if ya bought it from me or brought it with ya! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #15 January 23, 2009 There is a difference between what I would advise you to do and what I will let you do. If you show up here with a 150 we will let you jump it, but I advise you to keep the 170 for another season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #16 January 23, 2009 Quoteread b4 answering the poll plz I read, but I can't answer. You haven't told us how much you weigh, so we can't calculate your wing-loading. When you slope soar, is there the weight of a reserve parachute? That alone, would add about 10 lbs. to your weight for a skydive, compared to slope soaring. Thus you would need a bigger parachute to maintain the same wing-loading that you have for slope soaring. I'm surprised that no one else has bothered to ask this crucial question yet... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #17 January 23, 2009 According to his profile, he loads a 175 at 1.2. That would make his exit weight 210. He'd load a 135 at 1.56. To me the answer is definitely no. A semi-elliptical 170 would be more appropriate. But that's just me. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #18 January 23, 2009 Go down to Lodi, pay your 15 dollar and no one will say shit about what size chute(canopy) that you are jumping.. but you can't do hook turns tho... i've heard bill hates hook turns.. and i've googled bill dause and this poped out... is this for real??? http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=230647932Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #19 January 23, 2009 http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=230647932 -I think someone's a little pissed at Mr. D ! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #20 January 23, 2009 QuoteQuotewhy a hop and pop?? Our CI always puts new canopies out low. You got a specific goal to focus on, short ride to altitude, no other distractions and little to no traffic. Perhaps likestojump has another reason, but that's ours. most importantly so he doesn't fuck anyone else up. And all the other reasons you listed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #21 January 23, 2009 Quote now lets say its a small c206 dz that you own Then why post here about this shit, or things about your mad skills? If it's your DZ, do what ever the fuck you want. Just dont take anyone else with you! www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #22 January 23, 2009 Quote http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=230647932 -I think someone's a little pissed at Mr. D ! Thats funny I bet he get's gays calling him daily.....www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #23 January 23, 2009 Quote Go down to Lodi, pay your 15 dollar and no one will say shit about what size chute(canopy) that you are jumping.. Let me know ahead of time so I can get a camera ready! I love getting video of idiots! and you can come too www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #24 January 24, 2009 If you have to ask..........---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MADPROPS 0 #25 January 24, 2009 Quote Quote why a hop and pop?? Our CI always puts new canopies out low. You got a specific goal to focus on, short ride to altitude, no other distractions and little to no traffic. Perhaps likestojump has another reason, but that's ours. that makes sense i think i would like to go to the top and do a go and throw. thats what i did last time i moved down from a 190 to a 175. plus there is just something about hop and pops at 10000 feet are just fun i know to ask my coaches and what not. I just wanted to know what you think. or maybe more so if any one was in the same spot as me wondering what to do as for wing loading, i load my monarch 175 at 1.2 and and i have about 20 lbs more on me in the winter just foot launching. and alot more i`m sure when skiing i`m not saying i`m all bad ass. Just wanted to know what you guys and girls thinklive and let live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
