fakeone 0 #101 February 25, 2009 my point exactly. think of the faa as a giant beast. we are small and the beast cannot feel when we poke it on the tail. slap it in the face with a nine iron though and it may sit up and take note. itsbasebitches! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #102 February 25, 2009 The guy who flew the bandit jump into Shea stadium. The guy who flew the wingsuiter who hit the bridge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fincher 0 #103 February 25, 2009 america....land of the free? or home of the brave enough to act like it? those guys jumping base rigs from thier own private chopper should be no concern of anybodies. No one on the ground was in danger. If they tear up a skid then that is there own problem. Not mine. ( I know its the law) but why you guys have to harp on that? everybody is just jealous that they dont have the money or lifestyle to allow them to have that much fun.i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fakeone 0 #104 February 25, 2009 it seems to becoming home to a bunch of kittycats (read pussies) that are more into 'freedom from' than 'freedom to' itsbasebitches! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #105 February 25, 2009 Yes, several pilots. And its not B A S E if its from aircraft as most B A S E participants will insist.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fakeone 0 #106 February 25, 2009 urban legends for the most part. many of the circumstances that would lead to enforcement against the pilot could/would also bring action down on the jumpers. one does not need certification to be reprimanded. what if you jump a baser from a plane, is it a baser jump? i think that comment gos with another thread. oh and don't forget.... 14CFR105 clearly states if your main has been sitting packed for more than 180 and you jump it, you have just broken the law, and according to many on this board, put the pilot at grave risk of losing his license. is it safe to jump a sabre 170 that has sit for 6 months? i believe so, however it is as ILLEGAL as jumping a single parachute system. we all have rules we are comfortable breaking, lets just break the ones we want to and let others do the same (so long as it doesn't put persons or property at risk - which by the way is the spirit most aviation regs are written in, that or blood) oh and i didn't have a dropzone user name and the ones from basejumper don't work (not sure why, they are both GOP) itsbasebitches! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,995 #107 February 26, 2009 >one does not need certification to be reprimanded. Correct. One only needs a certificate if one is to be in danger of losing it. >what if you jump a baser from a plane, is it a baser jump? Nope. A jump from a plane with a TSOed rig is a skydive. A jump from a fixed object is a bas e jump. >oh and don't forget.... 14CFR105 clearly states if your main has been >sitting packed for more than 180 and you jump it, you have just broken >the law, and according to many on this board, put the pilot at grave risk >of losing his license. You are correct - and thus it behooves you to either a) ensure that your main is packed within 180 days or b) ensure that the pilot cannot be blamed for your violation of the regulations. It is OK to risk your own life, or risk a lawsuit/legal action against yourself - it is not OK to risk a pilot's livelihood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #108 February 26, 2009 QuoteThe skids are designed to take a load from the bottom pushing UP, and even then are designed to fail in a predictable manner that can make 'some' hard landings survivable. Having a couple hundred pounds out there, and then increasing not only the load but the directional forces being applied by centrifugal force during the spinning, shows a rather significant lack of understanding and safety on the pilot's part. As a side note, that's also why the main gear mounts in 182s crack and begin to fail. Those mounts are big cast pieces and are kind of pricey.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #109 February 26, 2009 Quoteurban legends for the most part. No they're not, and if you put in a little effort you can find the public record of actions taken against those pilots.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fincher 0 #110 February 26, 2009 good point! just because it wasnt made for it doesnt mean it wont do it, for a while at least. while we are mentioning it Im not sure that the door on a porter was meant to be opened in flight either but its damn sure done. And I know they have fallen off! This thread is a perfect example of how we all live in glass houses. If everybody just minded thier own business the world would be great. Where ever there is fun, there is some asshole trying to stop it. Even if it doesnt effect them.i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #111 February 26, 2009 Quote If everybody just minded thier own business the world would be great. Where ever there is fun, there is some asshole trying to stop it. Even if it doesnt effect them. Doesn't it?"That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fincher 0 #112 February 26, 2009 doesnt it what? that comment was made in general not so much specifically to this. sorry for confusioni'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #113 February 26, 2009 Yeah, you're right - that's what happens when you got five minutes to read and post. Blame it on my boss. I meant, if someone does 'something fun' and dies, I think it does affect everyone else in the sport, due to the way the media will represent it and the fact that the Investigating Authorities don't necessarily have any affiliation with or understanding for the suject they investigate. Extreme and out of context example; if that helicopter had crashed, in the worst case scenario the authorities could prohibit jumping from (that type of) helicopter(s) because 'it evidently is not safe if even such experienced/professional athletes can't do it without harm'. Of course this example is very unlikely but i can't think of anything better at the moment. D "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
