format 1 #1 January 25, 2009 An old thread, this time poll RSL or no? It should be revealing. ___________________________________ There are no stupid newbie questions, only stupid responses to newbie questions. SparkyWhat goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #2 January 25, 2009 RSL, yes. Why? I'd prefer to hit the ground with line twists as opposed to at or before line stretch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #3 January 25, 2009 Quote RSL, yes. Why? I'd prefer to hit the ground with line twists as opposed to at or before line stretch. in testing the skyhook produced lees linetwists thatn normal deployments. after may thuis year i will most likely never jump without a skyhook again, 2 new custom microns and a personal sigma"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #4 January 25, 2009 I voted NO, but thats MY choice, and only mine. I've had a reserve twisted badly in line twist, and it was diving just like my main. If you choose to disconnect your RSL, IMO you should be prepared to pull abit higher, and be prepared to make your decisions for stability at a higher altitude. The Skyhook seems like a good alternative to the RSL.www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 8 #5 January 25, 2009 I roll with a skyhook RSL in the ready to operate configuration even though it will probably beat me to the punch, I have high confidence (read that as hope) that I would follow through with my emergency procedures and pull my reserve handle anyway. I fly a pretty docile canopy though, loaded at 1.25 no cameras, and I don't do crewif you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danornan 79 #6 January 25, 2009 There are several good reasons to not jump with and RSL; shooting pictures or some other highly specialized type of skydiving, but, if you want to go with the odds, you every buy a lottery ticket or gamble occasionally, have it and keep it hooked up. There are way too many reasons to have it than not. You are in denial to not use one.Dano Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #7 January 25, 2009 I'm very pro-RSL however I almost exclusively jump a full camera helmet so cannot use one myself. I have 7 cutaways, the ones with RSL the RSL either helped me or not hindered me (ie, I didn't even get a single linetwist on my reserve after chopping a spinner on my back), one chop without RSL I very much would have liked to have RSL as I didn't jump camera that one jump, I opened lower than usual and I ended up on my back after my cutaway, with the RSL the reserve would've been out before I flipped onto my back so would've been under my reserve sooner. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #8 January 25, 2009 2nd chop, with RSL - beautifull: I beleive less than 250 ft resulted in soft reserve ride. 3rd like Bodypilot1 I've had scary experience: cutaway/fired out of spin time stopped - reserve PC staring at me from above, me being on the back, kinda slowly realized that wide bridle is routed between my left hand and body - I moved it away instantly - sure it openned but since then I preffere to pull higher, without playing rsLotto. and for Disclaimer: I voted NO, but that's MY choice, and only mine and soWhat goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #9 January 25, 2009 Regarding true value of this poll: 352 views so far, 60 votes so far. a lots a whufoos aren't voting ehhWhat goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spindlee 0 #10 January 25, 2009 I haven't yet had a mal but after a lot of reading and discussions i chose to order a skyhook for my Vector 3. I think having an RSL also depends on what sort of jumping you intend on doing but 99% of the time i think having an RSL is a good idea. Even better if it's a skyhook. SimonIf in doubt, whip it out... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazmoDee 3 #11 January 26, 2009 I voted no....The rig I bought didn't have one.I'm behind the bar at Sloppy Joe's....See ya in the Keys! Muff 4313 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huge 0 #12 January 26, 2009 Quote 352 views so far, 60 votes so far. a lots a whufoos aren't voting ehh It could also be that those who did vote came back to see how others voted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gearless_chris 1 #13 January 26, 2009 I needed to be able to use multiple answers. I have one rig with a Skyhook and one rig with nothing(Cypress or RSL). I voted for Skyhook because if I had ordered both rigs new, they would both have Skyhooks. I'm not against a regular RSL, if I'm jumping a rig with one, I don't disconnect it."If it wasn't easy stupid people couldn't do it", Duane. My momma said I could be anything I wanted when I grew up, so I became an a$$hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #14 January 26, 2009 QuoteI voted no....The rig I bought didn't have one. I voted "it depends" as the best answer, but I currently don't have one."That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #15 January 26, 2009 i prefer to pull higher.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #16 January 26, 2009 after 32 hours and 102 votes (only ?) 47% RSL or Skyhook 34% NO RSL exept for students 19% Sometimes yes/no I find hard to beleive that only 102 skydivers have visited poll but it seems so What goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #17 January 27, 2009 My rig hasn't got an RSL, but if it did I'd leave it connected. My next rig will have a Skyhook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marios 0 #18 January 27, 2009 I do not jump a high performance canopy and it has saved my life once Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SStewart 13 #19 January 27, 2009 8 reserve rides and I have never used an RSL. All cutaways, no totals. I have never deployed a reserve below 1000 feet. For the life of me I can not understand why anyone would release the main and not immediately deploy the reserve but it happens. One of lifes mysteries I guess.....Onward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danornan 79 #20 January 27, 2009 Things that have not happen, happen all the time! You can either go with the logical and compiled facts or listen to anecdotal information. The facts say that overall, you are safer with an RSL than not. Thinking otherwise is simply denial except in very few circumstances like a camera on your helmet.Dano Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #21 January 27, 2009 Quoteexcept in very few circumstances like a camera on your helmet. or a hand or leg, I can't avoid wearing those, you know. .. and those are bigger then cameraWhat goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voodew1 0 #22 January 27, 2009 Quoteexcept in very few circumstances like a camera on your helmet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- or a hand or leg, I can't avoid wearing those, you know. .. and those are bigger then camera You should listen instead of trying to be a smart ass - I am sure someone very smart told you RSLs are bad but once again ----- RSLs HAVE SAVED WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN THEY HAVE KILLED - WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF SURVIVAL WITH ONE - THIS IS A FACT!! I personally wear a RSL on my wingsuit rig and do not use an RSL on my camera high wing loaded rig. RSLs are a choice and all the 100 jump wonders that have never had a cutaway should be wearing one regardless of what they have been told or read - the choice you make may not make you cool but it might just save your life The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #23 January 27, 2009 I listen and read, you are not. I did have my hand almost disabling my reserve to open - because of an RSL, on my 3rd cutaway. Is it o.k. for me NOW not to connect it? By your smart standards? ________________________________ Oh, I forgot, I am a stastistic onlyWhat goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #24 January 27, 2009 QuoteI listen and read, you are not. I did have my hand almost disabling my reserve to open - because of an RSL, on my 3rd cutaway. Is it o.k. for me NOW not to connect it? By your smart standards? ________________________________ Oh, I forgot, I am a stastistic only out of curiosity, what are you doing that caused at least 3 cutaways in under 140 jumps ? Perhaps it's a chain of events that lead to the RSL being detrimental in your situation ? Such chain a lot of times has a big presence of human error :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #25 January 27, 2009 All threeWhat goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites