kallend 2,027 #51 March 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteBump because it seems relevant to the device dependence thread. Blues, Dave Necessary for what? Speed skydiving contest? Birdman jump? 357 way attempt? 4-way Open at Nationals? It's an ill-posed question. Posted 23 April, 2004 Quote"Necessary" for what? A solo fun skydive on a hot day, or serious competition, or a 150-way, or a jump over the North Pole? ... And that’s a repeat of your response from 23 April last year. If you feel it is that bad of a question, don't respond. Seems simple to me. Sparky So my perceptive powers haven't declined over the intervening months. It was ill posed then and its ill-posed now.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #52 March 23, 2005 All that would be 'necessary' for me to jump is a 2 chute rig and goggles. I know from riding motorcycles that my eyes start to tear alot after about 60 mph. That means I for all practical purposes I would be blind during freefall. Plus, I were contacts when I jump. I have around 20/400 vision without correction. So, if they were to blow out, it would be a rough day. Having said that, I jump with all the 'insurance' I can get: Helmet or goggles, gloves, jumpsuit, Cypress AAD, Skyhook RSL, visual altimeter, and plan on acquiring a Protrack. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #53 March 23, 2005 QuoteHaving said that, I jump with all the 'insurance' I can get: Helmet or goggles, gloves, jumpsuit, Cypress AAD, Skyhook RSL, visual altimeter, and plan on acquiring a Protrack. Your profile says you are still a student. I am just curious, does you DZ use Vectors with skyhooks for student rigs?Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #54 March 23, 2005 QuoteI am just curious, does you DZ use Vectors with skyhooks for student rigs? Yes, that's actually one of the reasons why I decided to do AFF there. Also, I had The Relative Workshop install a skyhook on the used Vector3 that I bought. An incident keeps coming back to my mind about a highly experienced skydiver who had a canopy collision some where between 1000-600' AGL. When he checked his Velocity 96 for controllability, it went in to a spin. He immeadiately pulled his reserve, but it failed to inflate fully. Had he a skyhook, things might have turned out differently. To me, it's just cheap insurance. Every little bit helps. Brian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #55 March 23, 2005 >Had he a skyhook, things might have turned out differently . . . Or had a canopy larger than 96 square feet. The skyhook is a great gadget. But it is a gadget, and can harm you as well as help you. As always, good judgement exercised on the ground will have _far_ more to do with your overall safety than good gadgets exercised in the air. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #56 March 23, 2005 You probably know the incident I'm refering to. The canopy might have been a 110. It happened durning a bigway out west about a year ago. To me, it means that anything can happen to anyone at anytime. So, it's good to be prepared. The RSL can alway be disconnected with just a tug on the tab, if you can find it. I've read a bunch of the threads about the pro and cons of an RSL and usefullness of the Skyhook. I just feel more comfortable with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #57 March 24, 2005 Quote As always, good judgement exercised on the ground ..... Which includes good equipment choices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #58 March 25, 2005 QuoteQuote As always, good judgement exercised on the ground ..... Which includes good equipment choices. And learning how to use it correctly.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Croc 0 #59 March 26, 2005 Don't have an RSL; would jump without an AAD; wouldn't even do a hop and pop without a hard helment and googles. And shoes. I love my pretty head. Love them feets, too."Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowen 0 #60 April 5, 2005 do a precheck and plan ahead. equipment is necessary. your life is at stake!!! -BowenRetired Tunnel Instructor, Sky/Tunnel Coach Former dealer for 2k Composites, Skysystems, Alti-2, Wings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
