bigway 4 #26 July 3, 2006 Got to love how they show cloud busting to that extreme on national telly. It is illegal is it not? I have nothing against it but i have never been allowed to jump through cloud like that in this country before. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #27 July 3, 2006 Very detailed story! Nearly every single skydiver owns a pair of gloves. All that with tampering with his rig as a joke asks alot of questions. I sure hope that bloke was not in the middle of trying to cut his shit and got interupted. I give kudo to all that par-took in this show. It is very imformative for a whuffo and does not do any injustice for our sport like i imagined it would. However i can see it starting more discussions in the sun and other papers like that tomorrow. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #28 July 3, 2006 i thought it was good overall, certainly not bad for the sport i dont think. the rig tampering sounded like they just popped his main-pin so he had to repack, they just took ages to say it. the only problem i had was them trying to push murder without providing any motives or suspects or anything. ah well, im sure its all been discussed before, and i can imagine theres a fair few pages on it to occupy my time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #29 July 3, 2006 Hell, if i was to come from a conclusion from the facts presented i would say murder. Don't have a clue who but i could not imagine anyone having that much fun the night before and then killing themselves. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #30 July 3, 2006 I thought it was quite good although alot still remains unanswered. Did he pull out his PC or was it still in BOC? Was it a cypres fire that released reserve or did he try EPs himself? Whatever happened I think its fair to say we need to pay more attention to our kit, we are a very trusting bunch with what is really a very serious piece of equipment. Paticularly those who leave their kit at the DZ. Also did you notice the free plug for dropzone.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #31 July 3, 2006 They said he did everything he was meant to do. in other words he pulled, and then went for reserve. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #32 July 3, 2006 Then it appears only one possibility which just reitterates the need to look after your kit The worst bit is if it was murder the person may still be among us. That freaks me out a bit considering the size of the active skydiving community. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Yossarian 0 #33 July 3, 2006 QuoteHell, if i was to come from a conclusion from the facts presented i would say murder. Don't have a clue who but i could not imagine anyone having that much fun the night before and then killing themselves. thats the trouble with tv programmes, bias etc (unless one agrees with the bias, obviously, then theyre great!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #34 July 3, 2006 Yes he deployed his PC. Yes he did his EPs Cypres fired anyway. I don't read anything into the joke deploying of his main in a cloakroom stunt. When the police asked me what I thought of it I simply pointed out that a mate had done exactly the same thing to me in the pub a week earlier. The draft obituary the police were oh-so-worried about was hilarious by the way. Proper skydiver humor showing proper skydiver respect to a mate the way only skydivers do. I'm sure Steve would have loved it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #35 July 3, 2006 The show was very equal. Only ever provided facts. Was never biased in my opinion. It was a big 50/50 for both. I never felt led by the narrator or the facts or suggestions. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #36 July 3, 2006 Were you a friend of Steve's? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #37 July 3, 2006 Thanks Mat, clears few things up in my head. I was too late into the sport to have known Steve but blue skies. Yeah, watching the show, whilst I understand their concerns, the police seemed a bit silly in their reactions to events by parties after the incident Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #38 July 3, 2006 Just seemed like the police kept coming to fast different conclusions cause they knew fuck all about the mentality and life of skydivers and the sport we partake in. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #39 July 3, 2006 Appeal for fresh information in incidents thread... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=922368;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #40 July 3, 2006 You aint going to make detective ar you it is a 2 year old thread. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Yossarian 0 #41 July 3, 2006 what happened to the his two team-mates? havent seen them at any bcpa events this year or last, or anyone from shrivenham for that matter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #42 July 3, 2006 i heard they left the country. I heard that, i do not know that. If they did leave the country though, i dont blame them. The shit they were put through. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #43 July 3, 2006 One battled on with the military. Last I spoke with him though he was considering a change... not heard from him for a while though. You should get in touch mate. The other guy full-on cut away, dropped out of the Army and is living on a DZ in the States. Who could blame them for having problems? I guess it's gonna be hard to cope when your C.O. calls up the press and tells them exactly who's just about to be be arrested then sees to it that you're completely ostracized from the rest of the cohort by holding regular public briefings for your class mates on the progress of the case. It also kinda puts a downer on jumping when the DZO tells you not to bother visiting your home DZ in the near future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #44 July 3, 2006 I would have left the country too mate. I don't know what to think of them, i don't know them. In my heart i believe it was murder, i doubt very much it was any of his team mates. I do wonder why the team mates were questioned and shown in this bad light but the camera man was never mentioned. Not saying it was him, but he was kept very quiet. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #45 July 3, 2006 He was a pool camera guy at an event, no real connection with the team. He's just sore he's only ever credited as "amateur footage". I'll tell him he's now a suspect, he'll get a laugh out of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #46 July 3, 2006 I aint saying that I wonder if the show will do anything good for this case. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #47 July 3, 2006 Maybe...........The Butler did it R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #48 July 3, 2006 The narrator had guilt in his voice .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy_Copland 0 #49 July 4, 2006 There have been a number of suicides in skydiving, this one is very differant from all documented ones on this website. Seems like they either completely remove their kit of just dont pull. So him trying to save his own life twice raises alarm bells, but what would ring the biggest bell in my head would be if you saw on video him pulling at the normal altitude. I mean if hes going to commit suicide and lose his nerve he's going to do it much lower than normal deployment altitude. *note* Not pointing fingers at any of them on the prgram, but its just very odd for suicide1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Timmay 0 #50 July 4, 2006 Thanks, it's nice to know somebody else out there (apart from my mates...) could think about me in such a way! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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bigway 4 #31 July 3, 2006 They said he did everything he was meant to do. in other words he pulled, and then went for reserve. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #32 July 3, 2006 Then it appears only one possibility which just reitterates the need to look after your kit The worst bit is if it was murder the person may still be among us. That freaks me out a bit considering the size of the active skydiving community. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #33 July 3, 2006 QuoteHell, if i was to come from a conclusion from the facts presented i would say murder. Don't have a clue who but i could not imagine anyone having that much fun the night before and then killing themselves. thats the trouble with tv programmes, bias etc (unless one agrees with the bias, obviously, then theyre great!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #34 July 3, 2006 Yes he deployed his PC. Yes he did his EPs Cypres fired anyway. I don't read anything into the joke deploying of his main in a cloakroom stunt. When the police asked me what I thought of it I simply pointed out that a mate had done exactly the same thing to me in the pub a week earlier. The draft obituary the police were oh-so-worried about was hilarious by the way. Proper skydiver humor showing proper skydiver respect to a mate the way only skydivers do. I'm sure Steve would have loved it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #35 July 3, 2006 The show was very equal. Only ever provided facts. Was never biased in my opinion. It was a big 50/50 for both. I never felt led by the narrator or the facts or suggestions. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #36 July 3, 2006 Were you a friend of Steve's? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #37 July 3, 2006 Thanks Mat, clears few things up in my head. I was too late into the sport to have known Steve but blue skies. Yeah, watching the show, whilst I understand their concerns, the police seemed a bit silly in their reactions to events by parties after the incident Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #38 July 3, 2006 Just seemed like the police kept coming to fast different conclusions cause they knew fuck all about the mentality and life of skydivers and the sport we partake in. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #39 July 3, 2006 Appeal for fresh information in incidents thread... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=922368;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #40 July 3, 2006 You aint going to make detective ar you it is a 2 year old thread. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #41 July 3, 2006 what happened to the his two team-mates? havent seen them at any bcpa events this year or last, or anyone from shrivenham for that matter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #42 July 3, 2006 i heard they left the country. I heard that, i do not know that. If they did leave the country though, i dont blame them. The shit they were put through. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #43 July 3, 2006 One battled on with the military. Last I spoke with him though he was considering a change... not heard from him for a while though. You should get in touch mate. The other guy full-on cut away, dropped out of the Army and is living on a DZ in the States. Who could blame them for having problems? I guess it's gonna be hard to cope when your C.O. calls up the press and tells them exactly who's just about to be be arrested then sees to it that you're completely ostracized from the rest of the cohort by holding regular public briefings for your class mates on the progress of the case. It also kinda puts a downer on jumping when the DZO tells you not to bother visiting your home DZ in the near future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #44 July 3, 2006 I would have left the country too mate. I don't know what to think of them, i don't know them. In my heart i believe it was murder, i doubt very much it was any of his team mates. I do wonder why the team mates were questioned and shown in this bad light but the camera man was never mentioned. Not saying it was him, but he was kept very quiet. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #45 July 3, 2006 He was a pool camera guy at an event, no real connection with the team. He's just sore he's only ever credited as "amateur footage". I'll tell him he's now a suspect, he'll get a laugh out of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #46 July 3, 2006 I aint saying that I wonder if the show will do anything good for this case. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #47 July 3, 2006 Maybe...........The Butler did it R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #48 July 3, 2006 The narrator had guilt in his voice .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #49 July 4, 2006 There have been a number of suicides in skydiving, this one is very differant from all documented ones on this website. Seems like they either completely remove their kit of just dont pull. So him trying to save his own life twice raises alarm bells, but what would ring the biggest bell in my head would be if you saw on video him pulling at the normal altitude. I mean if hes going to commit suicide and lose his nerve he's going to do it much lower than normal deployment altitude. *note* Not pointing fingers at any of them on the prgram, but its just very odd for suicide1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timmay 0 #50 July 4, 2006 Thanks, it's nice to know somebody else out there (apart from my mates...) could think about me in such a way! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
