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You can go toss off with the other tourist.
This isn't about time or experience in the sport.
This is about crashtested's attitude, and yours as well.
Instead of offering a constructive suggestion to someone who has put their time and effort into providing a service to the skydiving community, he starts out by telling everyone the "you've got to do something" and pointing out how fucked up things are.
Now cue your arrogant comments about how he can be hit with legal action for trying to help people.
If I were in Sangiro's shoes, I'd probably just shut the whole thing down whit the grief you two are giving.
This has nothing to do with your being a skydiver and everything to do with you being self absorbed.
YEP... defiantly all americans!!!!!
and how am i a tourist?? Are you suggesting i am in america visiting some one .... Yet another great comment by diablo....
If we are going to talk about tourist ....you guys are just english who lost there sense of humor!!!!!!
I never made any comments about being hit with a lawsuit.... That shit is rancid to me!!!!!
And how did i not give a constructive suggestion!!!!! in fact i think its been one of the only suggestions in this thread.....
Once again the only argument here is should we do something if we can ...to ensure people know the dangers!!!! Even if they are void of common sense ????? I say yes ... others say let them burn!!
AND AGAIN NOTHING AGAINST THIS SIGHT OR THE HH ...This sight is a lot better for security than others ive seen but if it could be improved to help people why wouldnt you....???? at the moment the ONLY argument is they should have use common sense!
THIS IS NOT CONSTRUCTIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you have ANYTHING constructive to say????
Go back and read my post again diablo.... Trust me this sight has definitely opened my eyes about the wider skydiving community! and the fake image of wanting to help out people new to the sport.... its all good and well till they do something stupid then Fuck em!!!!
And as sad as it is thi IS a very American attitude!!!!!
is it like your attitude when you called a friend of mine a fake and fraudster when he was selling his nitro, then repeated it continualy baiting him on the whole thread?
Or is it like your attitude when you use one line put downs when people ask for advice, giving them nothing but shit?
Or is it like your attitude when you tell people to go jump rigs which will kill them and say you could'nt give a shit?
Do you know what you have won again... i'm hooked!
i'm sure your not the twat you make yourself out to be... on your dz your probally pretty funny and an ok guy.
Why not give people a break?
help them out rather then critizize, i'm sure you know a lot with your jump numbers, use your knowledge in a clever way. and educate others so they learn something.
How would you personally help people who are in danger of getting defruaded? it is happening on this website as previously mentioned, what is an easy soloution to it? in your opinion?
How would you personally help people who are in danger of getting defruaded? it is happening on this website as previously mentioned, what is an easy soloution to it? in your opinion?
Every one of my students gets the offer from me to help investigate any purchases, inspect gear, and handle escrow if the wish. And several have taken me up on it. After 5 years in gear sales I have a little to offer.
As for your friend, I have no idea what you're on about.
You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.
How would you personally help people who are in danger of getting defruaded? it is happening on this website as previously mentioned, what is an easy soloution to it? in your opinion?
Every one of my students gets the offer from me to help investigate any purchases, inspect gear, and handle escrow if the wish. And several have taken me up on it. After 5 years in gear sales I have a little to offer.
As for your friend, I have no idea what you're on about.
thanks diablo.. that really helps the op and anyone else who may be scammed in the future.
So now we need to figure a way of putting all future transactions and aff students through diablo,
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Every one of my students gets the offer from me to help investigate any purchases, inspect gear, and handle escrow if the wish. And several have taken me up on it. After 5 years in gear sales I have a little to offer.
But what if they are NOT your student, haven't gotten info from there DZ and are inexperienced in internet buying!!!!...
These are the people we are talking about.THEY are the ones that would benefit!!!!
Are you saying they are somehow not worthy of our help if we can offer it???????
LyraM45 0
Ditto.... it doesn't have anything to do with screwing anybody. In fact, this doesn't even have to have anything to do with skydiving in general, but instead proper etiquette and procedures of what one should know (and imo, what is common sense) when you purchase things over the internet; ebay, dropzone.com, whatever.
There is only so much dz.com can do to safegard the classifieds for users and sellers, and I think they are doing an OK job, but in a situation like this if a person misses the very obvious red flags and warnings, there is really not much they can do. They can police the community but will have a hard time protecting each individual purchase, especially if done impulsively and without thought or notice to all the warning signs.
Skybitch said she aint cho mama. DZ.com ain't yo mama either.
It's a sad thing that people get scammed on the internet. But people get scam in every aspect of life. Maybe DZ.com could put a Scam Alert landing page between the click to the classified and the actual classified page, but the clicker will be so "excited about their new gear", they'll hurry past that that to get to the pretty pictures...so we'll need two landing pages then three, then four.
At the bottom of the forums is a thread dedicated to scams. That's really not enough?
Perhaps the only reason for a person to visit DZ.com is to buy and sell gear. That's selfish and not the intent of this site. The claissifieded is SMALL PART of what DZ.com has to offer. Some of the other "small things" things this site has to offer is an enormaus amount information on HOW TO NOT GET RIPPED OFF ON THE INTERNET. Not just with gear, but everything you can learn here can be applied to any transition on the internet.
This isn't smug or skygod talk, it's called learning about the pitfalls of life on the internet.
Jon
Now will ya marry me, Bitch?
base_nz 0
[reply. They can police the community but will have a hard time protecting each individual purchase, especially if done impulsively and without thought or notice to all the warning signs.
But this is what im saying......" All the warning signs "
Many people (myself included) never saw the warning sign unitl they look for it !!!!!!!!!! All i was asking ,was to make something like that warning sign into a sticky, or something similar at the top of the classifieds ...... THATS ALL!!!!!!
Just put the 1 warning notice somewhere more obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Its been fun but i think ive made my point now
caio
[reply. They can police the community but will have a hard time protecting each individual purchase, especially if done impulsively and without thought or notice to all the warning signs.
But this is what im saying......" All the warning signs "
Many people (myself included) never saw the warning sign unitl they look for it !!!!!!!!!! All i was asking ,was to make something like that warning sign into a sticky, or something similar at the top of the classifieds ...... THATS ALL!!!!!!
Just put the 1 warning notice somewhere more obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
![[:/] [:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png)
Its been fun but i think ive made my point now
caio


Yes, you have tried to make your point, BUT...
You can put "stickies" in forums, but not on content pages. The classifieds aren't forums. They are a section of the of the site that contains content.
See, you may just be starting to learn something

Jon
edit to clarify
How would you personally help people who are in danger of getting defruaded? it is happening on this website as previously mentioned, what is an easy soloution to it? in your opinion?
Every one of my students gets the offer from me to help investigate any purchases, inspect gear, and handle escrow if the wish. And several have taken me up on it. After 5 years in gear sales I have a little to offer.
As for your friend, I have no idea what you're on about.
thanks diablo.. that really helps the op and anyone else who may be scammed in the future.
So now we need to figure a way of putting all future transactions and aff students through diablo,
The OP's plight, while sad, is not my problem. Now you're gonna say what I do isn't good enough.
WTF are YOU going to do to help the OP?
You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.
This has NOT A FUCKING THING to do with skydiving gear.
People who got scammed "buying" ads from this site had just as much chance getting scammed buying from craigslist, eBay, etc.
IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO FUCKED UP, NOT THE SITE.
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I thought saw something earlier in the post as well about that... Hwo about something similar? ....If not im all out of ideas
oh my god !!!
This has NOT A FUCKING THING to do with skydiving gear.
People who got scammed "buying" ads from this site had just as much chance getting scammed buying from craigslist, eBay, etc.
IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO FUCKED UP, NOT THE SITE.
Holy shit...not at me...right?
Jon
This isn't about time or experience in the sport.
This is about crashtested's attitude, and yours as well.
Instead of offering a constructive suggestion to someone who has put their time and effort into providing a service to the skydiving community, he starts out by telling everyone the "you've got to do something" and pointing out how fucked up things are.
Now cue your arrogant comments about how he can be hit with legal action for trying to help people.
If I were in Sangiro's shoes, I'd probably just shut the whole thing down whit the grief you two are giving.
This has nothing to do with your being a skydiver and everything to do with you being self absorbed.
You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.
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