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Thank you Tom :) I agree with you
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QuoteQuoteSkydiving is pretty simple. Start with what you learned as student
1) Pull
2) Pull at a safe altitude
3) Pull stable
# 1 & # 2 are allright. # 3, is incorrect. If you wait until 500' AGL or until your stable, you'll be in a bind. "Pull at you assigned altitude, stable or not."
Um...thats why they are in the order he put them.
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QuoteUm...thats why they are in the order he put them.
What he wrote can be taken a few ways. What he left out was that those things are ordered as priorites. I think that was the point of the correction. You understand that there was an order to the list because you were taught that there was an order. Someone poorly trained or who didn't pay enough attention to their training would not have known. Right?
Not an attempt to nit-pick the OP. It's just a fact that sometimes in our sport the devil really is in the details.
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>on top of that, they didn't have an RSL or a Skyhook, and to top that
>off, some didn't even have a Cypress.
>What's up with this retarded trend?
It's actually the opposite trend. When I started, no one had cypreses or skyhooks and most people did not have RSL's. The trend has been towards more and more gadgets as time has gone on.
>Why do some people ride their canopies at half brakes without
>unstowing until a few hundred feet above or below the hard deck? Is it
>because they're too lazy to hold the steering lines for 3-4 minutes?
No, it's more often because:
1) they have a problem to deal with (line twist etc)
2) they have something else to do (talk to a student, get their booties off)
3) they are doing other tricks to make it back (spreading risers) that are easier to do while brakes are stowed
>Why do you undo your chest strap? Because you want to be a little
>more comfortable under canopy?
Because you get slightly better performance from your parachute.
>If you're at 100-300 feet and the wind suddenly changes on you and
>you find yourself landing downwind, why, do some people go making
>180 degree turns?
Well, I might if it worked with the pattern and I really wanted to land into the wind. It's doable but you have to know what you're doing.
>Why do some skydivers jump their rig without a cypress?
Lots of reasons. They may not be able to afford both jumping and a cypres, they may have little need for one (i.e. swoopers) or they may be doing something (like an intentional cutaway) where it could be more problem than help.
>"I had to sell mine because I needed the money"....and all I can think
>is, what kind of a mentality is that?
It might be a mentality that currency is more important than a cypres (which is often true.)
>If there is a system available for you out there to INCREASE your
>chances of surviving, whether it's a cypress or a skyhook, or even a
>hook knife, why jump a rig without it?
Because most systems that can save your life can also kill you, for one reason.
>I've made a promise to myself that no matter what, at 100 or 1000
>jumps, I am still going to do the exact same procedures every single
>time, rig check, mind check, pull handles, unstow breaks right after
>deployment and look absolutely everywhere around me for people that
>want to kill me, period.
I very much hope this is not true throughout your skydiving career. You MUST do different gear checks when you are using a wingsuit. You MUST fly differently after opening when you are doing a bigway, and often that changes from bigway to bigway. Your procedures will change with time as you start doing different sorts of jumps and use different types of gear.
>Yet, can you blame me and others that are just getting started for
>being so pissed off and annoyed at all these things that are happening
>to this sport . . .
Keep in mind that others may have a wider perspective on the sport. That is not to say yours is wrong; yours is as valid as everyone else's. Just be open to seeing why people are doing things you may disagree with at first.
>The fatalities we've had this year....too many were unnecessary, and
>the trauma that I went through in the beginning stages of my skydiving
>career when I watched a dead body laying on the ground for 5 hours
>being surrounded by cops, skydivers, fire and coroners is something I
>will never forget.
Even one is "too many" - but you will see more as you progress through skydiving no matter what people do with their gear and their awareness. Fatalities are part of this sport (unfortunately) since the sky is very unforgiving of carelessness, incapacity and neglect. Whether or not it is worth it to you even with all those fatalities is up to you.
>Can we please make each jump as if it was our first?
And do a static line from 3000 feet with an SOS system, a balky mechanical AAD and a round reserve? No thanks!
I know what you mean - keep our vigilance up and don't become complacent. I agree, that's critical at any level of skydiving.
>off, some didn't even have a Cypress.
>What's up with this retarded trend?
It's actually the opposite trend. When I started, no one had cypreses or skyhooks and most people did not have RSL's. The trend has been towards more and more gadgets as time has gone on.
>Why do some people ride their canopies at half brakes without
>unstowing until a few hundred feet above or below the hard deck? Is it
>because they're too lazy to hold the steering lines for 3-4 minutes?
No, it's more often because:
1) they have a problem to deal with (line twist etc)
2) they have something else to do (talk to a student, get their booties off)
3) they are doing other tricks to make it back (spreading risers) that are easier to do while brakes are stowed
>Why do you undo your chest strap? Because you want to be a little
>more comfortable under canopy?
Because you get slightly better performance from your parachute.
>If you're at 100-300 feet and the wind suddenly changes on you and
>you find yourself landing downwind, why, do some people go making
>180 degree turns?
Well, I might if it worked with the pattern and I really wanted to land into the wind. It's doable but you have to know what you're doing.
>Why do some skydivers jump their rig without a cypress?
Lots of reasons. They may not be able to afford both jumping and a cypres, they may have little need for one (i.e. swoopers) or they may be doing something (like an intentional cutaway) where it could be more problem than help.
>"I had to sell mine because I needed the money"....and all I can think
>is, what kind of a mentality is that?
It might be a mentality that currency is more important than a cypres (which is often true.)
>If there is a system available for you out there to INCREASE your
>chances of surviving, whether it's a cypress or a skyhook, or even a
>hook knife, why jump a rig without it?
Because most systems that can save your life can also kill you, for one reason.
>I've made a promise to myself that no matter what, at 100 or 1000
>jumps, I am still going to do the exact same procedures every single
>time, rig check, mind check, pull handles, unstow breaks right after
>deployment and look absolutely everywhere around me for people that
>want to kill me, period.
I very much hope this is not true throughout your skydiving career. You MUST do different gear checks when you are using a wingsuit. You MUST fly differently after opening when you are doing a bigway, and often that changes from bigway to bigway. Your procedures will change with time as you start doing different sorts of jumps and use different types of gear.
>Yet, can you blame me and others that are just getting started for
>being so pissed off and annoyed at all these things that are happening
>to this sport . . .
Keep in mind that others may have a wider perspective on the sport. That is not to say yours is wrong; yours is as valid as everyone else's. Just be open to seeing why people are doing things you may disagree with at first.
>The fatalities we've had this year....too many were unnecessary, and
>the trauma that I went through in the beginning stages of my skydiving
>career when I watched a dead body laying on the ground for 5 hours
>being surrounded by cops, skydivers, fire and coroners is something I
>will never forget.
Even one is "too many" - but you will see more as you progress through skydiving no matter what people do with their gear and their awareness. Fatalities are part of this sport (unfortunately) since the sky is very unforgiving of carelessness, incapacity and neglect. Whether or not it is worth it to you even with all those fatalities is up to you.
>Can we please make each jump as if it was our first?
And do a static line from 3000 feet with an SOS system, a balky mechanical AAD and a round reserve? No thanks!
I know what you mean - keep our vigilance up and don't become complacent. I agree, that's critical at any level of skydiving.
Well said, Tom.
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