morris 0 #1 June 12, 2008 Does anyone know? The fact that the worldwide overall numbers of jumpers and jumps have been going down since about ~2001 - the year the X games dropped skysurfing - I´d like to know why that decision has been made? Financial reasons? TV-viewing figures? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #2 June 12, 2008 It didn't hold the viewers interest for very long and that results in no financial reason to keep it. That is just my opinion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #3 June 12, 2008 1)The truth is one routine looks a lot like the next one in skysurfing. 2)Most people cannot see themselves doing that routine whereas most of the audience can see themselves doing the latest skateboard routine, or something close to it. 3) Artistically judged sports are lame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #4 June 12, 2008 The same reason that they dropped barefoot water ski jumping. Most people will never be able to do it in their lifetime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #5 June 12, 2008 QuoteDoes anyone know? The fact that the worldwide overall numbers of jumpers and jumps have been going down since about ~2001 - the year the X games dropped skysurfing - I´d like to know why that decision has been made? Financial reasons? TV-viewing figures? What folks have said up thread... and when was the last time you saw someone at the DZ with a skyboard and their video guy getting on an airplane? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #6 June 12, 2008 Because there was no industry to back it. No one to sell the thousands of skyboards to. Unlike skateboards and BMX bikes and such. The advertisers couldn't see a way to make money off of it.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #7 June 12, 2008 Quote What folks have said up thread... and when was the last time you saw someone at the DZ with a skyboard and their video guy getting on an airplane? Couple weekends ago at Kapowsin. But your point still stands. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #8 June 12, 2008 QuoteBecause there was no industry to back it. No one to sell the thousands of skyboards to. Unlike skateboards and BMX bikes and such. The advertisers couldn't see a way to make money off of it. Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. You win what the X-Games was getting from having Skyboarding ... nothing."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dunderhead1 0 #9 June 12, 2008 easy...it`s because it`s bloody boring....who want to see paint dry..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brucet7 0 #10 June 12, 2008 Quote What folks have said up thread... and when was the last time you saw someone at the DZ with a skyboard and their video guy getting on an airplane? We have one I saw the other day, but no video guy.POPS #10623; SOS #1672 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #11 June 12, 2008 I met a bunch of the ESPN crew and talent in Montana when they filmed the "50 in 50" segment about BJ Worth. We were discussing the X Games and skydiving. The network was very afraid of a skysurfer going in during the competition and it was very difficult to schedule because of the weather. One year they had to move the venue, and a competitor got hit by his camera flyer on landing. And of course, why sponsor something you can't sell... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #12 June 12, 2008 QuoteAnd of course, why sponsor something you can't sell... Exactly, why sponsor something that people can't sit in bleachers and watch and then run out and purchase ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couloirman 0 #13 June 12, 2008 its just not spectator friendly. Take some big shots at espn to a swoop comp, impress the living hell out of them, and maybe they'd let that get in for a season, but like everyone said, theres no money in advertising bc theres no one to sell anything to. That and most of the people(teenage males) watching the x games are too young to jump anyway and you have an event destined to fail. Id REALLY like to see swooping at the x games though, maybe then Id actually give a crap about them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #14 June 12, 2008 And, does anyone really want to see Tanya hire a babysitter, make 3 practice jumps, and whip up on all of the boys!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #15 June 12, 2008 Quote The network was very afraid of a skysurfer going in during the competition and it was very difficult to schedule because of the weather. Yeah, the weather hardly ever cooperates when you try to schedule a bounce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #16 June 13, 2008 The skydiving segments were always done offsite, away from crowds. The entire thing was put together in post production and in the last year they try to choose a more scenic landing area as well. Even the play by play was dubbed in after the fact. Xgames wanted crowds. They could create a better brand that way, make more money, make new x-sport icons, and have it last longer. It didn't make much sense to skydivers when it happened, but seeing what the Xgames have become, it makes more sense now._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #17 June 13, 2008 Does anyone know? The fact that the worldwide overall numbers of jumpers and jumps have been going down since about ~2001 - the year the X games dropped skysurfing - I´d like to know why that decision has been made? Financial reasons? TV-viewing figures? *** I'd guess it's because the ultra-luscious Vivian Wegrath stopped competing. Beautiful in the air and on the ground, I've never seen someone make a smoother transition from door to relative wind, with or without a board on her feet. Without her, what's the point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #18 June 13, 2008 because all the really good skysurfers are dead..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazmoDee 3 #19 June 13, 2008 Dito...What he said.I'm behind the bar at Sloppy Joe's....See ya in the Keys! Muff 4313 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morris 0 #20 June 14, 2008 So if it´s mostly teenage males who are watching the X games (who are too young to jump), why did the worldwide jumps numbers go down after that drop? Coincidence?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kynan1 0 #21 June 14, 2008 They should combine freeflying and freestyle swooping. Judge it in 2 parts. Have 2 camera fliers on every jump, a helicpoter camera, ground level water cam, and POV cameras. Advertisers could make money, just like Moutain Dew makes money placing their ads in different events, no different. Actual product sales for skydiving, wouldn't really increase, but you could make money on it, if done right. Also, most people have zero clue how difficult most maneuvers are they'd be seeing. And in part, even great freeflying can become like watching a ballet. Technically hard, not very exciting to watch. Personally, I'd rather watch BMX park than skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #22 June 14, 2008 QuoteSo if it´s mostly teenage males who are watching the X games (who are too young to jump), why did the worldwide jumps numbers go down after that drop? Coincidence?? The economy tanked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 0 #23 June 14, 2008 Quotebecause all the really good skysurfers are dead..... I said "ouch" when I read that, because I knew it was probably true. Didn't watch much X-games in my life but it's probably one of the reasons I had an interest in doing this.Rodriguez Brother #1614, Muff Brother #4033 Jumped: Twin Otter, Cessna 182, CASA, Helicopter, Caravan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #24 July 10, 2008 this is why BASE jumping could be a better fit for xgamesLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #25 July 10, 2008 Quote1)The truth is one routine looks a lot like the next one in skysurfing. 2)Most people cannot see themselves doing that routine whereas most of the audience can see themselves doing the latest skateboard routine, or something close to it. 3) Artistically judged sports are lame. Everything you said could apply to figure skating, which always manages to sell out venues at Olympic and World Games on whatever continent they are held, as well as invite millions of TV viewers. Most of those people don't own skates, anymore than they own parachutes. Artisitcally judged sports aren't lame - sometimes the judges are. And usually, the people calling them lame are the ones who didn't win. Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites