mdairborn 0 #1 July 1, 2008 Ok everyones heard it before but this is what i have. I have a land lease at the local Airport and full suport of the Airport Authority along with City Councel. The Airport has very low traffic most of which is a flight school located right there. I have a 206 thats in the process of being converted as i type this thats owned and flown by a good friend of mine and business owner as well. He has agreed to fly jump runs for the cost of maintnence and fuel he has nothing better to do he just wants the hours... Also i think its an excuse to get away from his wife...... To top everything off i also have access to a turbin with the same agreement yep thats right a large turbin.. The elivation of the airport is 3300 ft. It is located an hour south of Vegas 2 hours west of Flagstaff 30 min east of Laughlin NV and Bullhead AZ and 45 min north east of Lake Havasu and Parker.. I need some guidence and help on this guys i would love to see this turn into a full dropzone... But honestly i have no idea what im doing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #2 July 1, 2008 I do believe that a commercial pilot's license is required for flying jumpers who pay for the jumps. Has the plane been approved by the FAA to have the changes made to the door? Those are just two things to start with. There's more..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdairborn 0 #3 July 1, 2008 The plane will be aproved shortley he is working on all of that and he just got his commercial licens.. He loves to fly that all he does and wants to learn to skydive also. he is 26 and when his father passed away in a plane crash he came in to a lot of money and plays all day long. Good friend to have.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #4 July 1, 2008 Wish I had a friend like that! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdairborn 0 #5 July 1, 2008 But i still have no idea what i am doing....... Any help would be greatly apreaciated.. The DZ would be located in Kingman AZ the location of the famous Ripleys Ruber Band Ball Drop.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #6 July 1, 2008 Quote But i still have no idea what i am doing....... Any help would be greatly apreaciated.. The DZ would be located in Kingman AZ the location of the famous Ripleys Ruber Band Ball Drop.... Ripley's Rubber Band Ball Drop?? Hmmm how big was the ball, and how high was it dropped? Sounds like some fun could be had with Skydive Arizona's Skyvan if the ball is as big as I'm thinking it is! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdairborn 0 #7 July 1, 2008 It was the worlds largest rubber band ball and it was droped from 6000 agl... Theres vid of it somewhere on this site there was a choper crash at the same time its on the vid lol... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 July 1, 2008 Quote It was the worlds largest rubber band ball and it was droped from 6000 agl... Theres vid of it somewhere on this site there was a choper crash at the same time its on the vid lol... How high did it bounce? I can't imagine a giant ball going BOING!!!! BOING!!!! BOING!!!! Hmmm... guess I better start searching for it."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdairborn 0 #9 July 1, 2008 The funny part is it dident bounce it just kinda blew up lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #10 July 1, 2008 Quote The funny part is it dident bounce it just kinda blew up lol Noooo.... really?!? It took me half a second to find that thread. Here it is: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=277542;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Unfortunately, the link to the pictures Brent Finley had do not work anymore, what do you expect, it was 6 years ago. I didn't see any video.... maybe youtube has it?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdairborn 0 #11 July 1, 2008 It was a funny day thats for sure.... But the city is in suport of what im looking at doing and i hope it will all work out good and be a destination spot for jumpers.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdairborn 0 #12 July 1, 2008 The floating around out there somewhere........ I would try you tube or just do a vid search Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #13 July 1, 2008 QuoteThe floating around out there somewhere........ I would try you tube or just do a vid search Youtube wasn't much help. Lots of other world record rubber band balls that have superseded the one that was dropped. Some interesting videos though. Wow, even came up empty on www.skydivingmovies.com"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
countzero 7 #14 July 1, 2008 contact the uspa for DZ regulation info.diamonds are a dawgs best friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommythevegan 0 #15 July 1, 2008 Quote It is located an hour south of Vegas... The only advice I have is not to exaggerate how far you are from any given city. Got me all excited for a second there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdairborn 0 #16 July 1, 2008 The Strip to my house takes one hour and 20 min as long as you dont drive like my mother.... I can be at the dam in 40 min and henderson in an hr and 10 aprox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhilDavis 0 #17 July 2, 2008 Quote I need some guidence and help on this guys i would love to see this turn into a full dropzone... But honestly i have no idea what im doing.... Oh, great. Here we go again! Maybe you should ask for some advice from the St Louis Skydiving Center, they have really done a good job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,306 #18 July 2, 2008 Is the City Council and Airport Authority willing to commit to a long-term DZ in writing. Have you set up a website. Have you developed a waiver and had an attorney review it. Have you created a FJC manual in line with the BSRs Have you purchased student gear. Do you have a rigger for student gear. Do you know how to file NOTAMS. Have you decided on an S&TA, Have you decided how to run manifest, who will run it and how they will be compensated. Have you figured out what and how to pay Instructors for classroom instruction and jump instruction. What have you decided about tandems - are you going to buy tandem gear of do a share with TI's who bring their own gear. Have you developed a budget. How are you going to advertise and where. If said pilot gets bored for a couple of weekend, what will you do to keep everyone jumping. Will s/he let someone else fly the plane. Will you have indoor carpeting for packing. Will it have a separate classroom devoid of distractions. Who cleans up the beer cans and vacuums the carpet after the weekend. Who does the books and how will they be compensated. What exactly is the cost of fuel and maintenance for this a/c per load. Just a couple of things off the top of my head.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #19 July 2, 2008 Quote Just a couple of things off the top of my head. Just a couple???? More like a score! Very good check list to have. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,306 #20 July 2, 2008 Been there, done that, still have the T-shirts in the closet.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdairborn 0 #21 July 2, 2008 Thanks you very much your the list it will be a good go to from the base i already have started. As far as the city councel and the Airport Authority yes they are and part of that is a 99yr lease on the property. We chose the property based off the Airports master plan and what would be sutible to the Airports growth predictions. The rest ill start working on... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,306 #22 July 2, 2008 QuoteAs far as the city council and the Airport Authority yes they are and part of that is a 99yr lease on the property. One word of advice.. ensure the 99yr lease includes "for the purpose of skydiving operations" even if it requires a lease amendment. Many a DZ has secured a 20 year lease and as the area around it grows and the city council & airport authority members change; more than one DZ has found themselves in the middle of a battle when the town folks gets to not liking a DZ in the area. Some DZ's have even found themselves being forced to shut down or move their skydiving operations 5/10 years later, but left to maintain their lease holding. Explicit in writing always carries more weight than implicit in word when the battle begins.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdairborn 0 #23 July 2, 2008 I will deff make sure that is in there. Thanks for the warning.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
