kallend 2,026 #26 March 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo let us re-examine: Barrel roll with pilot slightly above canopy: Yes. I'd suggest "Slightly" is somewhat subjective. Just to be picky here, a LOOP is not a BARREL ROLL, and a BARREL ROLL is not a LOOP. Um, in aircraft a school type barrel roll is a loop with a continuous roll. Thank you. Try telling that to the aerobatics judges when a loop is specified.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #27 March 7, 2008 QuoteNot that I actually know what I'm talking about, but I'd be willing to place a good deal of money on a bet that it has not been done with a skydiving parachute. SKYDIVING parachute. I'd say ask TJ and Dusty Smith directly.. ive seen some video that looks very much like it CAN happen with skydiving canopies.. they were certainly doing quite a few things that I'd only thought paragliders capabile of doing.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtpoorpacking 0 #28 March 14, 2008 thats stupid but some lady asked me and my brother if you needed botox after a jump and if you could answer a cell phone while in freefallCCCCUUUTTTAWAY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yarak 0 #29 March 14, 2008 I did a barrel roll under canopy, but I was only able to pull it off by having another jumper fly through my canopy with their velo. It was rather violent and scary...I dont recommend it! So yes when acted upon by an outside force, barrel rolls and all kinds of crazy sh@t is possibleI'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your fucking packing tent down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #30 March 14, 2008 Do not try this at home kids.....clicky and clicky (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #31 March 14, 2008 Stop posting paragliding sh1t! Those are not skydiving canopies.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #32 March 14, 2008 <>Nope, I wont, so Bollox... it's all flying. Take a deep breath and enjoy the beauty of the fact that we live in privileged times. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #33 March 14, 2008 Shropshire: If you do post paragliding stuff, you could at least explain what you are posting, rather than just providing YouTube links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #34 March 14, 2008 QuoteSomething a Non sky diver asked me today and although I was pretty sure of the answer I didnt know if it was impossible... Can you get enough speed from your canopy to actually then pull full brakes to invert so your above your main and/or go completly around or fall down into your main? There are at least two documented cases of failures to do an actual loop - as opposed to a steep barrel roll. In both cases the jumpers ended up IN their canopies, lines, etc. If I rememebr correctly, one got pretty radical - as you might guess. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyhus 0 #35 March 20, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vEWPFpVrNA @ 24 seconds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #36 March 20, 2008 Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vEWPFpVrNA @ 24 seconds Easily done with a hard turn, if you hold your object framed through the turn, like in this video.www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squarecanopy 0 #37 March 20, 2008 What is shown in those vids is not a loop. What I saw is a rotation around the centerline of the wing, i.e. a "flip". A loop would be flying the circumference of a circle, an equal distance or radius from a center point, for a full 360 degrees in the vertical plane. I would bet a loop is not possible with a ram air canopy, regardless of whether it is a skydiving canopy or a paragliding canopy. Just burning a hole in the sky..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #38 March 20, 2008 Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vEWPFpVrNA @ 24 seconds I love the description, seeing as how he posted it himself: "The amazing skydiving footage of Brian Germain. " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravitywhore 0 #39 March 20, 2008 Quote I would bet a loop is not possible with a ram air canopy, regardless of whether it is a skydiving canopy or a paragliding canopy. Check this shit out http://www.airflowtv.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #40 March 20, 2008 That looks like a barrel roll, not a loop...The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazmoDee 3 #41 March 20, 2008 Looks like a loop in the top movie....I'm behind the bar at Sloppy Joe's....See ya in the Keys! Muff 4313 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squarecanopy 0 #42 March 21, 2008 I saw several flips but no loop. A loop would be flying the circumference of, for example, a 500 ft. diameter circle in the vertical plane, which would require inverted flight ( not something a collapsible wing is capable of) and pitch control surfaces at some horizontal distance behind the wing, in other words, a tail with movable elevators (which canopies do not have). That being said, that is one cool video. Gets my heart racing and makes me want to head for the DZ right NOW!!! Just burning a hole in the sky..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoolBeans 11 #43 November 19, 2019 (edited) Just checking, did anybody do the loop under skydiving canopy since 2008? Here's simple gif of how it should look like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobatic_maneuver#/media/File:Loop1.gif It could be great finish following strong swoop. Edited November 19, 2019 by CoolBeans 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lyosha 50 #44 November 19, 2019 (edited) Not sure if skydiving wings can maintain the energy of the wing well enough - they're made pretty inefficient so they can open well - but other wings can do a pretty good job... Try this at the end of a swoop and you are sure to break yourself... Edited November 19, 2019 by lyosha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites