MikeTJumps 4 #1 February 8, 2008 OK. Let's face it, sitting in the gallery and being moved out of the room for a closed session is the pits. However, I will attempt to keep the general membership informed to the best of my ability. I see notes are already being posted on the Jan Meyer "impeachment" site, but I am going to post my notes here so as to include other items and opinions. USPA BOD meeting, Orlando, FL 02/08/08 The agenda as published: 1. Call to order by the President 2. Approval of the minutes of the previous meeting & adoption of the agenda 3. Interim actions of the Executive Committee & President's Report 4. Treasurer's Report 5. Executive Director's Report 6. Special Agents Reports A. IPC delegate 7. Old Business 8. New Business A. Recommendation of the Executive Committee in the Matter of the Removal of Jan Meyer for Just Cause. 9. Committee Reports: A. Competition B. Constitution & By-Laws C. Executive D. Finance & Budget E. Group Member F. Membership Services G. Nominations & Elections H. Regional Directors I. Safety & Training 10. Adjournment 9:00 a.m. Meeting called to order by Pres. Glen Bangs. A motion to approve the minutes of the previous meeting made, approved and seconded. A motion to approve the agenda was asked for. Jan Meyers made a motion that Item 8A of the agenda be deleted. A second was heard from the floor but Glen Bangs declared it dilatory (delaying) by a point of order and that it will stay on the agenda. There is much discussion and the session is being closed for further discussion (meaning we in the gallery were told to leave while the BOD argues these points). I believe that there is a major personality issue that is leading to this closed session and I feel that things could be handled in a much more expeditious manner rather than keeping the gallery members outside for what is now more than four hours of thumb-twiddling. I would question the need for concealing the goings on of the meeting from the gallery. One way or another, we will eventually learn what is being discussed. The use of closed meetings to minimize disclosure of personal issues has some valid purposes but it can be overused as well. I would encourage any use of a closed meeting to be strictly time limited as it presents an aura of secrecy which is (in my opinion) not really necessary in our organization. I have just been informed that the BOD meeting is attempting to handle all “closed session” items in one fell-swoop so as to eliminate the constant move of the gallery in and out of the meeting. Communication to the gallery of this decision would have been welcome as compared to the current situation of being left “in the dark” as to what was going on. It is now 2:50 p.m. I have just been informed that the action to remove Jan Meyer from the BOD has been voted down. Jan is still a member of the Board of Directors. Now they are moving on to the discussion of the Skyride settlement. That will also be in closed session. Randy Allison has been selected as the newest member of the BOD, replacing the resigned Kip Lohmiller. He will represent the Mid-Eastern Region. Another very qualified candidate, Gene Newsom, had also vied for the position. The decision between the two candidates was surely a difficult one.Mike Turoff Instructor Examiner, USPA Co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #2 February 8, 2008 Thanks Mike. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #3 February 8, 2008 Yep, after leaving for lunch and coming back to the doors still closed, we just got bored enough to come check into our hotel. I figured I'd rather take a nap than wait around for nothing to happen that I'm allowed in on. But hopefully someone will call me when the doors to the secret chamber are opened again to the minions. Interesting (not) watching the process play out. It's actually quite telling."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #4 February 8, 2008 How many hours have ya'll been locked out? That kind of scheduling really promotes involvement of the General Membership You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lauraliscious 0 #5 February 8, 2008 It's been closed since slightly after opening at 9 am. That makes 7 hours so far. It's been closed ever since I've been here. Enemiga Rodriguez, PMS #369, OrFun #25, Team Dirty Sanchez #116, Pelt Head #29, Muff #4091 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeTJumps 4 #6 February 8, 2008 4:30 p.m. and they've finally finished the closed session. The gallery is being allowed back in. I have yet to hear the results of the last session but I will post it once I do.Mike Turoff Instructor Examiner, USPA Co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #7 February 8, 2008 My rough draft notes....see the later to be published minutes if you want details. 4:45 pm Session opened to gallery again 4:47 pm Letter from Kip Lohmiller re: resignation, read. 4:49 pm 2 Candidates for the Mid East RD position presented themselves. 5:02 pm Closed session for vote on the Mid East Regional Director Position. 5:12 pm Session re-opened. 5:13 pm BOD introductions followed by Gallery introductions. 5:16 pm Interim Actions (these are items the EC has acted on that need to be ratified by the full BOD) PASSED a) Wording on recent tandem changes clarified re:USPA members conducting tandems must be USPA tandem instructors. PASSED b) Waiver for Tandem Demo PASSED c) Suspension of Kip Lohmiller's TI rating for 90 days. PASSED d) Move to accept revisions to 2007 IRM PASSED e) Waiver for Tandem Demo PASSED f) Waiver for Tandem Demo PASSED g) Waiver for Tandem Demo PASSED h) Move to suspend USPA Membership for 6 months: Francisco Paco, for unsafe skydiving while conducting tandem skydives PASSED i) Move to waive a competition manual requirement for a competitor at the 2007 collegiate nationals. PASSED j) Move to accept a budget item PASSED k) Move to accept a USPA member to the US Para Ski team. 5:34 pm Lee Schlichtemeier presents 2007/2008 budget information 5:45 pm-ish, Meeting recessed General Membership meeting is up next at 7pm. Edit: My apologies to anyone for any of my own inaccuracies in the above information. It's a hard room to hear everything clearly in. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #8 February 9, 2008 So who is the new Mid East Regional Director? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #9 February 9, 2008 the action to remove Jan Meyer from the BOD has been voted down. Jan is still a member of the Board of Directors[/quot] Hurray for Jan Hurray at last Hurray for Jan, she's a horses ass. Her, Her, FUCK HER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #10 February 9, 2008 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3116476#3116476 Randy Allison-dzoyou can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #11 February 9, 2008 Quote http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3116476#3116476 Randy Allison-dzo Thanks. I missed it in the earlier post. Opps!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeTJumps 4 #12 February 9, 2008 In addition to what you folks have already read, the other major issue that was probably discussed in closed session was that of the "Skyride" lawsuit decision by the executive committee based upon the legal opinion/recommendation of the corporation's lawyer. Although the BOD members would not come out directly and say so at the "general membership meeting" (meaning that it was an informal discussion session because a quorum of the membership was not present), you will be able to assume that the decision of the executive committee was most probably upheld. I cannot give you a definitive statement on that issue because I could not get confirmation of that issue's resolution by any BOD member. The BOD's meeting minutes will be the final authoritative resource of information on this issue.Mike Turoff Instructor Examiner, USPA Co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #13 February 9, 2008 Quote PASSED h) Move to suspend USPA Membership for 6 months: Francisco Paco, for unsafe skydiving while conducting tandem skydives What is the story there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeTJumps 4 #14 February 9, 2008 It was a disciplinary action against a foreign member that amounts to a slap on the wrist and has no real effect because the time of the suspension has already lapsed. Foreign jumpers can not be controlled by the USPA, but it was felt that a statement of disapproval of his actions was necessary and thus made.Mike Turoff Instructor Examiner, USPA Co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #15 February 9, 2008 What did he do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #16 February 9, 2008 Stream One Stream Two Stream Three Sorry it's so dark...more streams to come. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #17 February 9, 2008 QuoteWhat did he do? Report from the Director of S&T (Jim Crouch) was that the TI in question was freeflying, specificaly sitflying with tandem students. It's against the BSR's and since the individul was not working in the USA, nor possesing a USPA TI rating, the punitive measure of the membership suspension was felt to send a message that the USPA could not condone such activity. At least that was my take of the issue.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denete 3 #18 February 9, 2008 Hey, they're going to debut a new USPA web site with enhanced e-commerce functionality. Maybe it'll have the same graphics and testimonials as a bunch of other sites, and only allow you to change your mailing address AFTER is has your credit card information. Sure, you can apply to run for regional director...but it'll have to be in a region that is a 5 hour drive from where you live. firmly planted in cheek> Thanks for the video updates! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #19 February 9, 2008 QuoteStream One Stream Two Stream Three Sorry it's so dark...more streams to come. Fixed dead link. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #20 February 9, 2008 Quotethe action to remove Jan Meyer from the BOD has been voted down. Jan is still a member of the Board of Directors[/quot] Hurray for Jan Hurray at last Hurray for Jan, she's a horses ass. Her, Her, FUCK HER Is she cute?Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #21 February 9, 2008 So what is Kip being spanked for?Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #22 February 9, 2008 Quote So what is Kip being spanked for? DILITARY!!!!!!!!! POINT OF ORDER!!!!!!!!!! in case you hadn't guessed I'm still mad at *PA removed by slotperfect - regardless of his actions or your indignation, he is a member of these forums* Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #23 February 9, 2008 Just asking for a point of informationDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #24 February 9, 2008 Quote Just asking for a point of information DILITARY! POINT OF ORDER! (I guess you had to have been there ) - I copied and pasted this from the other thread "AFAIK, Kip is resigning because he took a 12 year old on a tandem without a waiver and then tried to file a waiver after the fact to cover his ass and he got busted doing it. Discussion here: http://www.dropzone.com/...tring=worst;#2995711 " and for clarification I'm mad at Bangs and the USPA, not KipPete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #25 February 9, 2008 YOu got a better linkDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
