Mikhail 0 #1 February 4, 2008 Hey everyone, Care for some psychology? I've spent most of my free time this past week plowing through a bunch of material on something called "reversal theory," a psychology theory that has particular application to risk sports. I hope some of you may find this interesting. Feedback & comments are much appreciated! Without futher adieu: clicky Blue skies, Mikhail P.S. I have no formal background in psychology whatsoever; this is an entirely amateur effort. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milo 0 #2 February 4, 2008 sky calls, man falls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #3 February 4, 2008 Sorry, but when I read sentences like: Alternatively, it seems that metamotivational states could be layered. Thatcher et al. propose that the paratelic-conformist state pair is dominant during skydiving my mind tends to shout "codswallop" for some reason.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryguy 0 #4 February 4, 2008 Are there any Cliff Notes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #5 February 4, 2008 Pick up, "The Parachute and it's Pilot" by Brian Germain, as well as "Transcending Fear" They will lead you more into the psychology involved in skydivingDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGirlWonder 0 #6 February 4, 2008 Quote Are there any Cliff Notes? yes please Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damion75 0 #7 February 4, 2008 Unfortunately, I disagree with Apter on this point: As a curious aside, Apter argues that negativism is yet another active arousal-seeking strategy, in the sense of overcoming social limitations. Perhaps he had Mad Skillz though? Personally I see it less as negativism and more as para-logical titivationism with some atavistic neo-colonialism thrown in. But I have always been something of a radical thinker...*************** Not one shred of evidence supports the theory that life is serious - look at the platypus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikhail 0 #8 February 4, 2008 QuotePick up, "The Parachute and it's Pilot" by Brian Germain, as well as "Transcending Fear" They will lead you more into the psychology involved in skydiving I've read the books multiple times. :) Transcending Fear focuses on reducing arousal when it is harmful (e.g. emergency situation). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #9 February 4, 2008 Quote my mind tends to shout "codswallop" for some reason. Maybe if your mind spoke English, you would make more sense. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #10 February 4, 2008 Quote Quote my mind tends to shout "codswallop" for some reason. Maybe if your mind spoke English, you would make more sense. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codswallop Would you prefer balderdash?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikhail 0 #11 February 4, 2008 Quote Quote Quote my mind tends to shout "codswallop" for some reason. Maybe if your mind spoke English, you would make more sense. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codswallop Would you prefer balderdash? Whatever the terminology, there was no bullshit intended. I looked at the material, picked out things that I thought were relevant, and made some comments. Take it or leave it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #12 February 4, 2008 Quote Would you prefer balderdash? At least that one doesn't originate with a phrase meaning, "...to whack in the balls..." _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skydivesg 7 #13 February 4, 2008 This is one of the best "put ons" I've seen on this site in a long time. Good one man.Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hajnalka 0 #14 February 5, 2008 Quote Personally I see it less as negativism and more as para-logical titivationism with some atavistic neo-colonialism thrown in. But I have always been something of a radical thinker... Wow. Somehow, that really "speaks" to me. Can I use it as my new sig? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #15 February 5, 2008 Quote Quote Quote my mind tends to shout "codswallop" for some reason. Maybe if your mind spoke English, you would make more sense. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codswallop Would you prefer balderdash? ah i cannot believe you're quoting Wiki ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damion75 0 #16 February 5, 2008 Quote Quote Personally I see it less as negativism and more as para-logical titivationism with some atavistic neo-colonialism thrown in. But I have always been something of a radical thinker... Wow. Somehow, that really "speaks" to me. Can I use it as my new sig? Of course... I am always available to come out with meaningless crap should the occasion demand it. *************** Not one shred of evidence supports the theory that life is serious - look at the platypus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravitysucks 0 #17 February 5, 2008 Mikhail, Most of the psychological "research" that has been done on skydiving tends to reinforce a pre-existing bias against participants in recreational risk taking. In academia, it is hard enough to find a niche to study that hasn't already been beaten to death by other people aspiring to put more letters after their name. I think this is why we see so many self-reinforcing research projects and a near lack of objectivism. About the time I started my graduate work, a movie called "Adrenaline Rush: The Science of Risk" came out and inspired me to do my thesis on the psychophysiology of risk-taking behavior. Since I practice in an ER, I have a bit of a different take on the outcomes of risk taking and extreme sports. It tends to make you focus more on the what instead of the why, and the tangible rather than the theoretical. In other words, I tend to agree more with Grillet than I do Apter peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #18 February 5, 2008 Quote Quote Would you prefer balderdash? At least that one doesn't originate with a phrase meaning, "...to whack in the balls..." "You're very good at whacking people."" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #19 February 5, 2008 Quote "You're very good at whacking people." One does what one can._____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UDSkyJunkie 0 #20 February 6, 2008 Quote Personally I see it less as negativism and more as para-logical titivationism with some atavistic neo-colonialism thrown in. But I have always been something of a radical thinker... Props to you for that, I was thinking something similar except all the gigantic, meaningless words that I can string together are engineering words, not psychology words (or made-up words). Anyway, while I'm sure the paper made a great grad-school psych essay, and I think the author made some correct observations, I really just found it a case of using big, confusing words to hide the fact that he was describing the intuitively obvious."Some people follow their dreams, others hunt them down and beat them mercilessly into submission." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damion75 0 #21 February 6, 2008 Quote Props to you for that, I was thinking something similar except all the gigantic, meaningless words that I can string together are engineering words, not psychology words (or made-up words). Anyway, while I'm sure the paper made a great grad-school psych essay, and I think the author made some correct observations, I really just found it a case of using big, confusing words to hide the fact that he was describing the intuitively obvious. Busted! Anyway, I agree with your findings on this matter, Dr UDSkyjunkie.*************** Not one shred of evidence supports the theory that life is serious - look at the platypus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #22 February 6, 2008 Quote Quote Personally I see it less as negativism and more as para-logical titivationism with some atavistic neo-colonialism thrown in. But I have always been something of a radical thinker... Props to you for that, I was thinking something similar except all the gigantic, meaningless words that I can string together are engineering words, not psychology words (or made-up words). Anyway, while I'm sure the paper made a great grad-school psych essay, and I think the author made some correct observations, I really just found it a case of using big, confusing words to hide the fact that he was describing the intuitively obvious. Can you give an example of a meaningless gigantic engineering word?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 25 #23 February 6, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Personally I see it less as negativism and more as para-logical titivationism with some atavistic neo-colonialism thrown in. But I have always been something of a radical thinker... Props to you for that, I was thinking something similar except all the gigantic, meaningless words that I can string together are engineering words, not psychology words (or made-up words). Anyway, while I'm sure the paper made a great grad-school psych essay, and I think the author made some correct observations, I really just found it a case of using big, confusing words to hide the fact that he was describing the intuitively obvious. Can you give an example of a meaningless gigantic engineering word? Turboencabulator? Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UDSkyJunkie 0 #24 February 6, 2008 Quote Can you give an example of a meaningless gigantic engineering word? Flux Capacitor?Tachyon particles? Word? no... string of legit words that could have been said much more simply? yes! I remember my sister's massage therapy instructor at her graduation ceremony: "Greetings all soft-tissue constriction removal technicians!""Some people follow their dreams, others hunt them down and beat them mercilessly into submission." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #25 February 6, 2008 Quote Quote Can you give an example of a meaningless gigantic engineering word? Flux Capacitor? FICTION Quote Tachyon particles? Physics, not engineering Quote Word? no... string of legit words that could have been said much more simply? yes! I remember my sister's massage therapy instructor at her graduation ceremony: "Greetings all soft-tissue constriction removal technicians!" Massage therapy is NOT engineering. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
