jtval 0 #26 January 29, 2008 Think of it as if the parachute was laid out face down while youre packing. Now take the container and flip it between the lines so there is a twist in them. that is a step through. Get's its name because MOST of the time it is caused by STEPPING THROUGH the lines after the canopy is on the ground (after you land) Did that make sense? a lot of times it wouldnt effect the flight so bad that it would result in chopping but if theres any question...cutaway- go to reserve. If the pack job is done properly it SHOULD BE imposible to pack a step through. WHen you run the lines the twist should be VERY OBVIOUS. My step through was a little more complicated. the rig wasnt passed through the complete line set. Give me a day to find the video and I'll post it. Up until now, posting a pic was merely to serve as a description but now it may serve as a learning tool Ill find it. EDIT: for organizational reasons I will post the picture hereMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #27 January 29, 2008 Can you post a pic of your helmet? Me really wants to see it!! ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #28 January 29, 2008 Me really wants to see it!! Quote No comment...too easy! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plummeteer 0 #29 January 30, 2008 I was already working on a sticker that sized down would work well for this, I'll share it when it's more complete. If anyone still has any interest. Edo Concumbui Aethrae Cernuare Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomLemming 0 #30 January 30, 2008 Ahhhh, ok - now I know what that is. When we were shown that in packing training, they explained what to check for and how to check the lines, but they didn't tell us it had a name. My standard line checks should keep me from doing that, but I'll do this deliberately when I get my rig back just to make sure that my checks cover this. I always make sure that the lines from the top riser (when rig is on the ground for packing) go to the rear of the canopy, the lines from the bottom riser go to the front of the canopy and that there are no twists in the lines from the risers, up through the slider and from there to the connection points on the canopy. Yeah, it takes me longer to pack than most, but I'm a coward, and it keeps me from sweating too much :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #31 January 30, 2008 QuoteCan you post a pic of your helmet? Me really wants to see it!! This weekend I'll take a picture of the helmet just for you. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #32 January 31, 2008 QuoteGive me a day to find the video and I'll post it. EDITWell I guess I lied. It seems like the ONLY video I recorded over was THIS one tandem jump. Its too cleanly recorded over though. It may.for soem reason, be on a different tape but I keep my tapes labeled with dates and info so chronologically it should not be anywhere else. It sucks but I think I may have recorded over it. I guess I lied about that, too. Here are 2 picture. Click on my video link to view the view. It'll be uploaded in a few minutesMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #33 January 31, 2008 QuoteCan you post a pic of your helmet? Me really wants to see it!! ------------------------------------------------ This weekend I'll take a picture of the helmet just for you. Thanks!! ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #34 January 31, 2008 I was wondering to have 6 starts or 6 skulls on my helmet, than Ive dropped the idea. The "scum" would not understand, so they don't need to know. Its better to be know as having a lot, their fear can multiply it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #35 February 1, 2008 Not that I'm all anit-Black Deathy and all... but when it comes to reserve rides... why would you use a skull and bones? Wouldn't a nice happy Anyway, I've got a PD-Reserve patch sewn onto one of my jumpsuits, I guess because one of my reserve rides was on a (my) PD-Reserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #36 February 1, 2008 Quote My last reserve ride was from a packer who pack a step through. It was her last weekend at our DZ and I still dont know how you pack something like that. In my time in the sport, I've seen more than one step through packed and jumped. It usually winds up in a nasty mal and reserve ride. However, I've even seen pack rotations (a variation of a step through) packed, jumped, landed and in the process of being packed again when an outside observer caught it and asked the individual what the heck they were doing!??! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,105 #37 February 1, 2008 Quote Quote My last reserve ride was from a packer who pack a step through. It was her last weekend at our DZ and I still dont know how you pack something like that. In my time in the sport, I've seen more than one step through packed and jumped. It usually winds up in a nasty mal and reserve ride. However, I've even seen pack rotations (a variation of a step through) packed, jumped, landed and in the process of being packed again when an outside observer caught it and asked the individual what the heck they were doing!??! Nice avatar, Tim. How much was the surgery? Was it painful?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #38 February 2, 2008 I would think little Angel Wings would be a better representation for reserve rides. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccurley 1 #39 February 2, 2008 I stil have my "I love baby Cobras" Patch from Niagara Parachutes somewhere around here. Eddie Grim used to give them out in the 70sWatch my video Fat Women http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plummeteer 0 #40 February 2, 2008 How about your rigger's seal? The large version I am working on is too detailed to shrink to this size, so I made a simple version. Edo Concumbui Aethrae Cernuare Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #41 February 2, 2008 QuoteCan you post a pic of your helmet? Me really wants to see it!! Here you go ... steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #42 February 2, 2008 The 2 stickers on the right ear are far better though!An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #43 February 2, 2008 at least they are harder to earn! steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #44 February 2, 2008 True and well deserved for those of yuo who did earn them. I am just happy I could support those who have em. Now as to the reserve ride stickers where do I find em?An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #45 February 2, 2008 I bought mine at an athletic store (in the football section) steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #46 February 2, 2008 Quote Can you post a pic of your helmet? Me really wants to see it!! --------------------------------------------------------- Here you go ... Love it!! Thanks for posting the pic. I think i'll go get me a sticker. So far i'm only eligible for one sticker....and i'm content with keeping it that way. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #47 February 3, 2008 Quote Quote Can you post a pic of your helmet? Me really wants to see it!! Here you go ... 5 rides in 1500 jumps? Steve, who's packing those things?EDIT: Nevermind. I can see in post #10 of this thread you already addressed that question. (I was pretty sure you described them sure thats why I went back to check)My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #48 February 3, 2008 QuoteIf the pack job is done properly it SHOULD BE imposible to pack a step through. WHen you run the lines the twist should be VERY OBVIOUS. i would think that the most likely time for a step through to happen is between the time that the last line stow is made and the bag is put in the container. think about how many times you see a rig laying there with all of the lines stowed and the bag just laying on the ground behind or sitting on top of the container. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #49 February 4, 2008 I think in this instance it would be hard to do that even if the lines were stowed. I can't imagine that someone could pull the bag through one set of lines when packing and not see a gigantic fuck up....but then again...I DID receive a step through. Maybe it was plannedEDIT: I stand corrected. This was stepped through ALMOST both sets of lines. Which is more confusing than just one set of lines. I do beleive that this one was stepped through before the packing occured. Just my hunch since multiple people handled the rig from the time I landed til I opened it. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
