bozo 0 #26 January 9, 2008 QuoteOh, God forbid I get a fact "sort of" wrong. If you quote facts, they should not be "sort of" right. They should be absolutely right. You post like you know Micheal...but you dont. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #27 January 9, 2008 QuoteYou're mormon? Not a very good one......but yeah.....so are Bounce , Ronnie.....AND Craig. Did that rock your world ? LOL bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #28 January 9, 2008 Where the hell are your white shirts? My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mbondvegas 0 #29 January 9, 2008 Quote .... - if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. . What????...Mesquite is in NV...not UTAH.- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mbondvegas 0 #30 January 9, 2008 Quote Quote I just noticed today that Skydive Las Vegas is no longer in the DZ listing on this site. I assume they did not think that the mostly negative reviews were beneficial to their business. This kind of defeats the purpose of a review if the DZ can come here and delete them. My thought exactly Spence!- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyberdyber 0 #31 January 9, 2008 Your right, those ideas behind the discussion are unimportant, it's really the detailed minutae that's essential. Good thing Lincoln didn't accidentally say "Four score and six years ago". We might still have slavery. I forget some of you have nothing better to do than sit on Dropzone 25 hours a day a always be more "right" than everyone else. BTW, how do "post like" something? and further, how do you know I don't know Michael? http://www.skydiveatlanta.com http://www.musiccityskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mbondvegas 0 #32 January 9, 2008 Quote Your right, those ideas behind the discussion are unimportant, it's really the detailed minutae that's essential. Good thing Lincoln didn't accidentally say "Four score and six years ago". We might still have slavery. I forget some of you have nothing better to do than sit on Dropzone 25 hours a day a always be more "right" than everyone else. BTW, how do "post like" something? and further, how do you know I don't know Michael? Well...I think the point is...Yes Michael and Brent have the right to conduct their business in a way that best serves their interest/goals. BUT Likewise, the public (that's US) has a right to voice our disdain for their business practices. Sort of like JT said...I respect a DZO's right to not allow fun jumping...but I also reserve my right to call him a dickhead.- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 9 #33 January 9, 2008 QuoteThere're a lot more mormons at this weekend than any other I think. You can tell because they ride up on bicycles. little name tags and conservative haircuts? Yeah, we take that form for two years, but after our metamorphosis is complete, like Bozo said, you have to look under the hair for horns to tell em apart....=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #34 January 9, 2008 QuoteWhat????...Mesquite is in NV...not UTAH. Barely.. hell the end of the runway is already in AZ.. and Utah is just a very short drive right up I-15.. like 20 miles.... I got the feeling when I was there it was THE place for those in Southern Utah to have a place to go be sinful for the weekend... let down the hair and party Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #35 January 9, 2008 What? No funjumping at XYZ DZ? Oh! The horrors of it all! You're wasting a lot of emotional energy worrying about that.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #36 January 9, 2008 QuoteOh, God forbid I get a fact "sort of" wrong. The point is he got sued due to fun jumpers and any business owner has the right to do whatever they want with their business. and from SpenceQuoteSo you think all funjumpers should be banned from dZs because some asshole sued? If someone made an endeavour of yours very difficult, stressful, costly, and took all the fun out of it because of someone else's mistake, you probably wouldn't care to do it anymore either. Hmmm.... Point taken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #37 January 9, 2008 The point Trey made was taken but did you see the reason I stated why the guy is a dickhead?I've siad it many times on these forums He had every right to conduct business as he saw fit, but he's a dickhead for reasons I stated in those threads. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites squirrel 0 #38 January 9, 2008 Quote Quote There're a lot more mormons at this weekend than any other I think. You can tell because they ride up on bicycles. little name tags and conservative haircuts? Yeah, we take that form for two years, but after our metamorphosis is complete, like Bozo said, you have to look under the hair for horns to tell em apart.... i can see it now..."The First Boggie of Latter Day Jumpers!" yes yes, I am joking, as in humor. After all, I was raised catholic...look at the crap those priests have pulled! ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #39 January 9, 2008 Quote The point Trey made was taken but did you see the reason I stated why the guy is a dickhead?I've siad it many times on these forums He had every right to conduct business as he saw fit, but he's a dickhead for reasons I stated in those threads. And a selfish prick to get his rules applied statewide to boot."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #40 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhat????...Mesquite is in NV...not UTAH. Barely.. hell the end of the runway is already in AZ.. and Utah is just a very short drive right up I-15.. like 20 miles.... I got the feeling when I was there it was THE place for those in Southern Utah to have a place to go be sinful for the weekend... let down the hair and party Sort of like the Saudis and Bahrain?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites divnswoop 0 #41 January 10, 2008 Quote Quote The point Trey made was taken but did you see the reason I stated why the guy is a dickhead?I've siad it many times on these forums He had every right to conduct business as he saw fit, but he's a dickhead for reasons I stated in those threads. And a selfish prick to get his rules applied statewide to boot. ...He is also the same prick that set a precedent on fatality lawsuits brought against dropzones and the USPA. You can call him a prick because he chose to run *his business* in a profitable manner. You can call him a prick for the way he treated people. BUT, we all owe him for the $500,000 and three years he spent fighting a lawsuit from a family of a well known cameraman who died because of his decisions and bad luck. If he would have lost this lawsuit it would have opened the doors for MANY more and rendered the waiver useless.....but most of us don't want to talk about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #42 January 10, 2008 [...He is also the same prick that set a precedent on fatality lawsuits brought against dropzones and the USPA. You can call him a prick because he chose to run *his business* in a profitable manner. You can call him a prick for the way he treated people. BUT, we all owe him for the $500,000 and three years he spent fighting a lawsuit from a family of a well known cameraman who died because of his decisions and bad luck.. Yes....thats all true. Michael was a good instructor, ran a clean efficient operation. His gear was beyond nice. I am someone that if you asked Michael I am still his friend so I feel I can say this truthfully. In his years at the Boulder City Airport running Skydive Las Vegas he did more to hurt skydiving than the Skyride folks have yet to do. I am not talking behind his back because I said this to his face on more than one occasion. Michael Hawkes had the wherewithall and business sense to be the Larry Hill of Nevada but his paranoia blew it for him. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites divnswoop 0 #43 January 10, 2008 Trust me, I feel the same way about him. It was amazing the reception I got when I walked in looking like someone who showed up for a tandem. Then the 180 came when he found out I had thousands of jumps. I just think some (ie not all) skydivers hop on the f- him bandwagon because he didn't want the hassle of fun-jumpers and they don't know everything that went down. This lawsuit was also another case of a USPA board member who performed questionable acts while representing the USPA....or their own agenda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #44 January 10, 2008 QuoteTrust me, I feel the same way about him. It was amazing the reception I got when I walked in looking like someone who showed up for a tandem. Then the 180 came when he found out I had thousands of jumps. I just think some (ie not all) skydivers hop on the f- him bandwagon because he didn't want the hassle of fun-jumpers and they don't know everything that went down. This lawsuit was also another case of a USPA board member who performed questionable acts while representing the USPA....or their own agenda Well that Board member is a friend of mine too so I will reserve comment on that. I was at SLV one day when Michael pissed off a group of doctors from the midwest.....experienced jumpers. He kicked em out the front door and locked it.....boy were they mad. They took a metal garbage can and tried to bash the DZ door in with it. The cops came and just asked the doctors to leave saying this was a regular occurance at SLV. I caught up with em and took em to Skydive Mesquite. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BASE841 3 #45 January 10, 2008 Since I'm on my way to Nevada tomorrow (Mesquite Boogie, woo hoo!) I looked at the Skydive Las Vegas site out of morbid curiosity. I clicked on the "staff photos" section and spotted Jay Stokes. http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/gallery_vert/gallery_vert.html Was/is he really on staff there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #46 January 10, 2008 The weather here is AMAZING today and it should be awesome throughout the weekend. See you in Mesquite.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mbondvegas 0 #47 January 11, 2008 Quote The weather here is AMAZING .... 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bozo 0 #27 January 9, 2008 QuoteYou're mormon? Not a very good one......but yeah.....so are Bounce , Ronnie.....AND Craig. Did that rock your world ? LOL bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #28 January 9, 2008 Where the hell are your white shirts? My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mbondvegas 0 #29 January 9, 2008 Quote .... - if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. . What????...Mesquite is in NV...not UTAH.- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mbondvegas 0 #30 January 9, 2008 Quote Quote I just noticed today that Skydive Las Vegas is no longer in the DZ listing on this site. I assume they did not think that the mostly negative reviews were beneficial to their business. This kind of defeats the purpose of a review if the DZ can come here and delete them. My thought exactly Spence!- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyberdyber 0 #31 January 9, 2008 Your right, those ideas behind the discussion are unimportant, it's really the detailed minutae that's essential. Good thing Lincoln didn't accidentally say "Four score and six years ago". We might still have slavery. I forget some of you have nothing better to do than sit on Dropzone 25 hours a day a always be more "right" than everyone else. BTW, how do "post like" something? and further, how do you know I don't know Michael? http://www.skydiveatlanta.com http://www.musiccityskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mbondvegas 0 #32 January 9, 2008 Quote Your right, those ideas behind the discussion are unimportant, it's really the detailed minutae that's essential. Good thing Lincoln didn't accidentally say "Four score and six years ago". We might still have slavery. I forget some of you have nothing better to do than sit on Dropzone 25 hours a day a always be more "right" than everyone else. BTW, how do "post like" something? and further, how do you know I don't know Michael? Well...I think the point is...Yes Michael and Brent have the right to conduct their business in a way that best serves their interest/goals. BUT Likewise, the public (that's US) has a right to voice our disdain for their business practices. Sort of like JT said...I respect a DZO's right to not allow fun jumping...but I also reserve my right to call him a dickhead.- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 9 #33 January 9, 2008 QuoteThere're a lot more mormons at this weekend than any other I think. You can tell because they ride up on bicycles. little name tags and conservative haircuts? Yeah, we take that form for two years, but after our metamorphosis is complete, like Bozo said, you have to look under the hair for horns to tell em apart....=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #34 January 9, 2008 QuoteWhat????...Mesquite is in NV...not UTAH. Barely.. hell the end of the runway is already in AZ.. and Utah is just a very short drive right up I-15.. like 20 miles.... I got the feeling when I was there it was THE place for those in Southern Utah to have a place to go be sinful for the weekend... let down the hair and party Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #35 January 9, 2008 What? No funjumping at XYZ DZ? Oh! The horrors of it all! You're wasting a lot of emotional energy worrying about that.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #36 January 9, 2008 QuoteOh, God forbid I get a fact "sort of" wrong. The point is he got sued due to fun jumpers and any business owner has the right to do whatever they want with their business. and from SpenceQuoteSo you think all funjumpers should be banned from dZs because some asshole sued? If someone made an endeavour of yours very difficult, stressful, costly, and took all the fun out of it because of someone else's mistake, you probably wouldn't care to do it anymore either. Hmmm.... Point taken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #37 January 9, 2008 The point Trey made was taken but did you see the reason I stated why the guy is a dickhead?I've siad it many times on these forums He had every right to conduct business as he saw fit, but he's a dickhead for reasons I stated in those threads. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites squirrel 0 #38 January 9, 2008 Quote Quote There're a lot more mormons at this weekend than any other I think. You can tell because they ride up on bicycles. little name tags and conservative haircuts? Yeah, we take that form for two years, but after our metamorphosis is complete, like Bozo said, you have to look under the hair for horns to tell em apart.... i can see it now..."The First Boggie of Latter Day Jumpers!" yes yes, I am joking, as in humor. After all, I was raised catholic...look at the crap those priests have pulled! ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #39 January 9, 2008 Quote The point Trey made was taken but did you see the reason I stated why the guy is a dickhead?I've siad it many times on these forums He had every right to conduct business as he saw fit, but he's a dickhead for reasons I stated in those threads. And a selfish prick to get his rules applied statewide to boot."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #40 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhat????...Mesquite is in NV...not UTAH. Barely.. hell the end of the runway is already in AZ.. and Utah is just a very short drive right up I-15.. like 20 miles.... I got the feeling when I was there it was THE place for those in Southern Utah to have a place to go be sinful for the weekend... let down the hair and party Sort of like the Saudis and Bahrain?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites divnswoop 0 #41 January 10, 2008 Quote Quote The point Trey made was taken but did you see the reason I stated why the guy is a dickhead?I've siad it many times on these forums He had every right to conduct business as he saw fit, but he's a dickhead for reasons I stated in those threads. And a selfish prick to get his rules applied statewide to boot. ...He is also the same prick that set a precedent on fatality lawsuits brought against dropzones and the USPA. You can call him a prick because he chose to run *his business* in a profitable manner. You can call him a prick for the way he treated people. BUT, we all owe him for the $500,000 and three years he spent fighting a lawsuit from a family of a well known cameraman who died because of his decisions and bad luck. If he would have lost this lawsuit it would have opened the doors for MANY more and rendered the waiver useless.....but most of us don't want to talk about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #42 January 10, 2008 [...He is also the same prick that set a precedent on fatality lawsuits brought against dropzones and the USPA. You can call him a prick because he chose to run *his business* in a profitable manner. You can call him a prick for the way he treated people. BUT, we all owe him for the $500,000 and three years he spent fighting a lawsuit from a family of a well known cameraman who died because of his decisions and bad luck.. Yes....thats all true. Michael was a good instructor, ran a clean efficient operation. His gear was beyond nice. I am someone that if you asked Michael I am still his friend so I feel I can say this truthfully. In his years at the Boulder City Airport running Skydive Las Vegas he did more to hurt skydiving than the Skyride folks have yet to do. I am not talking behind his back because I said this to his face on more than one occasion. Michael Hawkes had the wherewithall and business sense to be the Larry Hill of Nevada but his paranoia blew it for him. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #28 January 9, 2008 Where the hell are your white shirts? My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbondvegas 0 #29 January 9, 2008 Quote .... - if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. . What????...Mesquite is in NV...not UTAH.- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbondvegas 0 #30 January 9, 2008 Quote Quote I just noticed today that Skydive Las Vegas is no longer in the DZ listing on this site. I assume they did not think that the mostly negative reviews were beneficial to their business. This kind of defeats the purpose of a review if the DZ can come here and delete them. My thought exactly Spence!- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyberdyber 0 #31 January 9, 2008 Your right, those ideas behind the discussion are unimportant, it's really the detailed minutae that's essential. Good thing Lincoln didn't accidentally say "Four score and six years ago". We might still have slavery. I forget some of you have nothing better to do than sit on Dropzone 25 hours a day a always be more "right" than everyone else. BTW, how do "post like" something? and further, how do you know I don't know Michael? http://www.skydiveatlanta.com http://www.musiccityskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbondvegas 0 #32 January 9, 2008 Quote Your right, those ideas behind the discussion are unimportant, it's really the detailed minutae that's essential. Good thing Lincoln didn't accidentally say "Four score and six years ago". We might still have slavery. I forget some of you have nothing better to do than sit on Dropzone 25 hours a day a always be more "right" than everyone else. BTW, how do "post like" something? and further, how do you know I don't know Michael? Well...I think the point is...Yes Michael and Brent have the right to conduct their business in a way that best serves their interest/goals. BUT Likewise, the public (that's US) has a right to voice our disdain for their business practices. Sort of like JT said...I respect a DZO's right to not allow fun jumping...but I also reserve my right to call him a dickhead.- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #33 January 9, 2008 QuoteThere're a lot more mormons at this weekend than any other I think. You can tell because they ride up on bicycles. little name tags and conservative haircuts? Yeah, we take that form for two years, but after our metamorphosis is complete, like Bozo said, you have to look under the hair for horns to tell em apart....=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #34 January 9, 2008 QuoteWhat????...Mesquite is in NV...not UTAH. Barely.. hell the end of the runway is already in AZ.. and Utah is just a very short drive right up I-15.. like 20 miles.... I got the feeling when I was there it was THE place for those in Southern Utah to have a place to go be sinful for the weekend... let down the hair and party Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #35 January 9, 2008 What? No funjumping at XYZ DZ? Oh! The horrors of it all! You're wasting a lot of emotional energy worrying about that.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #36 January 9, 2008 QuoteOh, God forbid I get a fact "sort of" wrong. The point is he got sued due to fun jumpers and any business owner has the right to do whatever they want with their business. and from SpenceQuoteSo you think all funjumpers should be banned from dZs because some asshole sued? If someone made an endeavour of yours very difficult, stressful, costly, and took all the fun out of it because of someone else's mistake, you probably wouldn't care to do it anymore either. Hmmm.... Point taken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #37 January 9, 2008 The point Trey made was taken but did you see the reason I stated why the guy is a dickhead?I've siad it many times on these forums He had every right to conduct business as he saw fit, but he's a dickhead for reasons I stated in those threads. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #38 January 9, 2008 Quote Quote There're a lot more mormons at this weekend than any other I think. You can tell because they ride up on bicycles. little name tags and conservative haircuts? Yeah, we take that form for two years, but after our metamorphosis is complete, like Bozo said, you have to look under the hair for horns to tell em apart.... i can see it now..."The First Boggie of Latter Day Jumpers!" yes yes, I am joking, as in humor. After all, I was raised catholic...look at the crap those priests have pulled! ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #39 January 9, 2008 Quote The point Trey made was taken but did you see the reason I stated why the guy is a dickhead?I've siad it many times on these forums He had every right to conduct business as he saw fit, but he's a dickhead for reasons I stated in those threads. And a selfish prick to get his rules applied statewide to boot."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #40 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhat????...Mesquite is in NV...not UTAH. Barely.. hell the end of the runway is already in AZ.. and Utah is just a very short drive right up I-15.. like 20 miles.... I got the feeling when I was there it was THE place for those in Southern Utah to have a place to go be sinful for the weekend... let down the hair and party Sort of like the Saudis and Bahrain?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
divnswoop 0 #41 January 10, 2008 Quote Quote The point Trey made was taken but did you see the reason I stated why the guy is a dickhead?I've siad it many times on these forums He had every right to conduct business as he saw fit, but he's a dickhead for reasons I stated in those threads. And a selfish prick to get his rules applied statewide to boot. ...He is also the same prick that set a precedent on fatality lawsuits brought against dropzones and the USPA. You can call him a prick because he chose to run *his business* in a profitable manner. You can call him a prick for the way he treated people. BUT, we all owe him for the $500,000 and three years he spent fighting a lawsuit from a family of a well known cameraman who died because of his decisions and bad luck. If he would have lost this lawsuit it would have opened the doors for MANY more and rendered the waiver useless.....but most of us don't want to talk about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #42 January 10, 2008 [...He is also the same prick that set a precedent on fatality lawsuits brought against dropzones and the USPA. You can call him a prick because he chose to run *his business* in a profitable manner. You can call him a prick for the way he treated people. BUT, we all owe him for the $500,000 and three years he spent fighting a lawsuit from a family of a well known cameraman who died because of his decisions and bad luck.. Yes....thats all true. Michael was a good instructor, ran a clean efficient operation. His gear was beyond nice. I am someone that if you asked Michael I am still his friend so I feel I can say this truthfully. In his years at the Boulder City Airport running Skydive Las Vegas he did more to hurt skydiving than the Skyride folks have yet to do. I am not talking behind his back because I said this to his face on more than one occasion. Michael Hawkes had the wherewithall and business sense to be the Larry Hill of Nevada but his paranoia blew it for him. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
divnswoop 0 #43 January 10, 2008 Trust me, I feel the same way about him. It was amazing the reception I got when I walked in looking like someone who showed up for a tandem. Then the 180 came when he found out I had thousands of jumps. I just think some (ie not all) skydivers hop on the f- him bandwagon because he didn't want the hassle of fun-jumpers and they don't know everything that went down. This lawsuit was also another case of a USPA board member who performed questionable acts while representing the USPA....or their own agenda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #44 January 10, 2008 QuoteTrust me, I feel the same way about him. It was amazing the reception I got when I walked in looking like someone who showed up for a tandem. Then the 180 came when he found out I had thousands of jumps. I just think some (ie not all) skydivers hop on the f- him bandwagon because he didn't want the hassle of fun-jumpers and they don't know everything that went down. This lawsuit was also another case of a USPA board member who performed questionable acts while representing the USPA....or their own agenda Well that Board member is a friend of mine too so I will reserve comment on that. I was at SLV one day when Michael pissed off a group of doctors from the midwest.....experienced jumpers. He kicked em out the front door and locked it.....boy were they mad. They took a metal garbage can and tried to bash the DZ door in with it. The cops came and just asked the doctors to leave saying this was a regular occurance at SLV. I caught up with em and took em to Skydive Mesquite. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BASE841 3 #45 January 10, 2008 Since I'm on my way to Nevada tomorrow (Mesquite Boogie, woo hoo!) I looked at the Skydive Las Vegas site out of morbid curiosity. I clicked on the "staff photos" section and spotted Jay Stokes. http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/gallery_vert/gallery_vert.html Was/is he really on staff there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #46 January 10, 2008 The weather here is AMAZING today and it should be awesome throughout the weekend. See you in Mesquite.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbondvegas 0 #47 January 11, 2008 Quote The weather here is AMAZING .... Word! - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #48 January 11, 2008 Quote Word! Yep and that word is AMAZING. oh, and WEATHERMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #49 January 11, 2008 I'll see you there Dave. It's gotta be warmer there than here, yeah? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #50 January 11, 2008 its tshirt weather here and my blood has thinned out in recent years. So, if I'm warm you guys'll be sweatin.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
