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biggiepow

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Hi everyone
Ive never skydived or anything. All I really wanna do is BASE. My outdoor ethics aren't to keen on the use of a plane. So just a few questions. How many skydives before I can BASE (not the recomended, the barest minimum) How much will all those jumps cost, I am quite broke? How much does BASE gear cost and how long does it last? My main gig is rockclimbing/mountainering, I'd like to eventually wingsuit jump off mountains after climbing them.
Thanks and happy jumping

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Wow, you've got guts. I'm just a beginner with only 9 jumps but that's with at least one person alongside me and pulling at 5,500 feet. That leaves some room for hesitations, dumb decisions and inexperience. Not much margin of error there my friend. I understand, I've watched films of friends of mine jumping off bridges, towers, buildings and start thinking about it too. Somebody out there with lots of experience have some advise?

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I'll just say it how it is and hope i dont get banned for a PA. But its obviously not guts, its stupidity. The guy has clearly no idea what he thinks he wants to get himself into or the risks involved.

And if you think thats harsh wait til he posts the same thing on the BASE forum.

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How many skydives before I can BASE (not the recomended, the barest minimum)



Says it all really.
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Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

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Generally its recommended to have 150-200 skydives before attending a BASE first jump course. You are looking at around 1000-1500 to get cleared from student status and then another 125-175 jumps past that. If you are doing full altitude skydives from 10-13000 feet thats currently about $18-24 per jump. You have the option of doing "Hop and pop's" from a lower altitude and these are usually around $15-18 each. You'll need you either rent gear (prices go from $35 per day to $20 per jump) or buy skydiving gear (min rig for safety is going to run you about $1400 (its going to be old, unfashionable and not have an AAD in it) to $5000+ (newer, better condition, more safety features). If you are looking at flying a wingsuit its further recommended to have at least 200 jumps before taking a class on the flying of one and then to practice from airplanes for dozens of times to get used to the differences. The cost of a wingsuit is from $300 (used and a beginner style) to up upwards of $1500 for new and custom fitting. A BASE rig will then run you an additional $1000-2000 depending on what gear you are getting.

Min cost and recommended experience you are probally looking at? You are looking at around $10000 in training, gear and 225+ skydives.

If you want to do it as cheap as possible there is nothing stopping you from just going and jumping but history (expeically the last 5 years) shows that those who took their training less serious and failed to put in the skydives tended to end up hurt or dead faster then others. Go read the BASE fatality list, its a really good read on the cause of death of over 120 BASE jumpers.
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As a few have said, be careful what you wish for...
Tell your family, girlfriend / wife, friends what you are thinking of doing first... they may not be as surportive as you may like..

Understand that 27 people died this year doing base.. 10 or more of them were some serious jumpers 700 BASE jumps or more... not including there skydiving experiance which puts them in the 1000's of jumps experiance.
Than add the ammount of people who won't be jumping again due to there injuries. quite a few

Find a local spot (if your lucky) where base jumping takes place. I don't know where your living but you may have a place near you where jumpers go.

If they are nice and chatty, go and have a face to face chat with them about the sport there in.. the dangers involved, how many injuries they have, and how many friends they have lost!

Its not recomended. but there are a few people out there who started base jumping b4 skydiving.. not many... even fewer who are still alive.
I'll see if i can find one of there emails and PM you.. they'll tell you now it was a pretty daft thing to do, but they only know that through experiance.

Here is a link to spring "death" camp( theres a picture growing)

http://www.basejumper.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2883143;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;guest=1003081

These guys are a good stepping stone for contact.. find out what they expect, out of people looking to get in the sport, jump numbers, mentors, crw, how much ground crewing, courses taken, relvent first aid, climbing experiance it goes on and on.

Good luck to you.. there are a few hippies out there with the same reasoning as you about planes, who might take you under there wing ;)
Bad joke sorry

Its a hard community to get into, but as i said b4 get as much info from the guys who are active...

Failing that go to norway, they'll let anyone jump:S :P

cost wise
AFF - 1400USD
CONSOL x 10 = 230 USD
RIG if you are lucky = $1500 - $2000
JUMPS x 180 = $4000
1st jump course $1000
wing suit - $800
seeing you jump by 2009 = Priceless

or go to New zeland they do a skydiving school 7000 NZD i think

minnimum recomended 200 jumps from a plane -
from 50 jumps or b licence standard doing as many baloon jumps as possible dead air experiance
then....
Get a mentor
Learn how to pack
Learn how to pack again
Learn how to pack base rigs
buy a
Base rig 800 USD 2nd hand - it will last longer than you will B|
Get on a first jump course.. norway is good as well.

Have fun...

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there is no key book for beginning base..but some advice could be smarter than others,(not sure if my advice is smart though) but if i should start all over with the knowledge i have in base:|:ph34r:i would start at this point:
1 visit the nearest windtunnel with a good coach and pull out maybe 10-20 hours with differents flying technique..

2 get a skydiving license for canopy practice

3 buy a BASE canopy(since this discipline is your nr1?) and put it in a skydiverig, get use to accurate landings

4 after 50-150 jumps on this canopy, find yourself a BASE mentor(LEARN HOW TO PACK).

5 start with a "easy object" a bridge is a more forgiving object than a cliff..

6 after you are finding your comfort zone in BASE, (and what jump number is that? i don`t know..some have it after 50 jumps other have it after 300 jumps..you have to figure out yourself) you could try different jumping style...such as multiways,aerials....

i have never tried wingsuitsBASE, only from a airplane..i have never been good at this discipline so i gave it up and sold it and bought me a pair of skies:D:D...so this is my new favorite discipline(skibase)B|B|

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Yea and looking back i can see how much of an idiot i was. I have no shame saying i was wrong.

Dolphins are not BASE rigs and bridal shouldn't snap, as soon as the adrenaline wore off i was pleased i was still walking, but i wont be hucking myself off shit anytime soon.
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Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

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>How many skydives before I can BASE . . .

None are required. It's unregulated. I know at least one guy who made his first jump at Bridge Day with no skydives. It's incredibly stupid of course.

>How much will all those jumps cost, I am quite broke?

That's nothing new here. Look into a static line course; it's cheaper and you get more experience exiting and under canopy (which is more important than freefall training if your goal is BASE.)

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Where are you?

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My outdoor ethics aren't to keen on the use of a plane.



Do you drive or ride in a car to get to the rocks/mountains/trailhead? Same thing - the plane is the transportation that makes skydiving possible just as cars are the transportation that makes spending a week in the wilderness possible.

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The real answers are no jumps are required to base jump, and there are quite a few super experienced jumpers with very very few skydives, if any. Same goes with wingsuits, it is not completely unheard of to do your first wingsuit jump as a base jump (although i only know one example). If you dont want to skydive, no one will force you, but your odds of getting hurt or killed probably go up 10,000x.

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