Will Dz's renew their Group Membership?

[skydived19006 4]

Tommy,

With regard to the USPA v Skyride Boys suit, what are you upset about? The fact that they acted on emotion in the first place trying to pacify the membership, or that they didn't break the bank fighting the suit?

My opinion is that the BOD should have consulted with legal council prior to taking action. If that had been the case, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Martin
Air Capital Drop Zone DZO

I will renew my group membership this year. There is a lot about USPA that I'm not happy with, but it's "only $200" ($200 for little DZs), and they do send me a couple of $25 SIMs.

Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else.

AC DZ

[chutejump 0]

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Tommy,

With regard to the USPA v Skyride Boys suit, what are you upset about? The fact that they acted on emotion in the first place trying to pacify the membership, or that they didn't break the bank fighting the suit?

Martin
My problem is that this action is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg of poor decisions that uspa has been making for some time. Did you know that there is a chance that the 180 repack NPRN may fail because uspa neglected to inform the membership of it's existence to post your support, and that the FAA only received around 300 responses to a rule change that we have cried was needed because everyone supported it! 300 responses does not constitute a statement of support.
Talk about dropping the ball! I do not see a firm need for the GM program, as I stated before, I don't believe they have the position to dictate how and whom I should allow to jump at my DZ, they are a membership organization not a business organization.
Hell uspa can not effectively administer the programs they offer now, they would rather bring offenders in under their wing as opposed to sending them packing for violations. We are dealing with adult children here, just like children when you yell and they know that this is the extent of the punishment, they could give a shit, but if the recourse after the yell is a kick in the ass they start to step and fetch! People say that I am too harsh in my approach to dealing with persons whom fuck up or do not follow the rules, I have attempted to be nice over the years but have learned that the public will not allow the nice approach, they will not even hear your request, and to get their attention you must foam at the mouth and kick butt at the DZ to get their attention. USPA is the toothless barking dog! no threat!

I already have, City, County, State, and Federal agencies, Oil companies, Insurance Companies, and the legal System attempting to dictate to me how I operate my business, I do not need the added help of uspa.

AS I stated before I believe that we need uspa as a membership organization, with regard to access, State and federal laws, and as the leaders of a self policing sport! but I also believe they should get out of the DZ business and clean their own house.

And if you would consider the cost of the updated SIM and IRM you can purchase them for half the cost of GM renewal! and buy beer with the savings!

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[skydived19006 4]

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And if you would consider the cost of the updated SIM and IRM you can purchase them for half the cost of GM renewal! and buy beer with the savings!

Well you just had to throw beer into the argument!

I agree with you regarding the Group Member program, it could go away and not bother me a bit. That said, I do like the fact that I can advertise that we're a "USPA Group Member DZ", that said, I could say I was a USBCA (US Beer Consumers Association) Group Member DZ, being an organization that I just made up, and am the sole member of, it would mean the same thing to my student customers.

If it weren’t for the fact that Group DZs pledge to require individual membership as a group member, and for the third party insurance, quite a few individual jumpers would drop their membership. That said, if it weren’t for the individual/group member conflict, their may be quite a bit less dissention among the individual membership. That said, regardless of the Group Member program, a large percentage of DZOs would still require individual membership simply for the insurance.

I wonder how many DZOs don’t really police their individual members USPA status. I could do a better job policing it.

Martin

Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else.

AC DZ

[pilotdave 0]

I take the fact that your dropzone isn't a member of the National Skydiving Association (Skyride Scam) as a sign that you are not a safe, approved skydiving center. If you want my trust, I recommend joining immediately.

Dave

[ElJosh 0]

Wait a minute Dave, I jump at AC/DZ and they aren’t an NSA member?!
I could be in real trouble here.
Martin I think that you need to get on this ASAP or I may have to take drastic actions.
~El Josh AKA Ruby

DS #149
Yes I only have 3 jumps...it's the magic number dude.