kelpdiver 2 #851 February 7, 2005 QuoteI had the oppertunity to jump two skyrides Saturday. They were both Laywers and I over saw them laughing at Bill Booth's video and the waiver. Skyride pay's our DZ $145 for skyrides. Our regular price is $180. They paid Skyride over $200 for their jumps. Ouch - not exactly win win for the customers or the DZ. How much more business could your DZ drum up at $35/head in marketing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plummet 0 #852 February 8, 2005 Sky Knights SPC (East Troy, Wisconsin) no longer accepts Skyride certificates. -Jeff. http://www.iplummet.com Common sense and common courtesy are NOT common. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greene 0 #853 February 11, 2005 This is a great way to share links. If you have not put up a shared link on Air Capital Drop Zone, please do. IF you wish to counter attack the skyride issue. Jim and Lee West SGC Xenia, Ohio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #854 February 15, 2005 Any new news? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #855 February 16, 2005 QuoteThis is a great way to share links. If you have not put up a shared link on Air Capital Drop Zone, please do. IF you wish to counter attack the skyride issue. Jim and Lee West SGC Xenia, Ohio I also encourage all that have shared links with me to “complete the circle” and put up all or most of the links that you see on my page. There are differing opinions as to how affective this tactic is regarding search engine ranking. Some are of the opinion that the search engines recognize “links pages” for what they are and discount the importance of the links. I don’t really know, but I figure that at worst link trading isn’t going to hurt anyone’s page ranking. In layman’s terms your sites “page rank” dictates how high you come up in search results. There are other things that can be done such as changing your titles (look at the top of your screen right now the title is something like “Dropzone.com Skydive Forums…”, and Meta descriptions (talk to your web guy/chick). My basic thought is that if our customers can at least find the real local DZ when they come across the ubiquitous Skyride/Soaring Sports/Skydiving Team/insert state skydiving.com/etc. it’ll put us all on more of an even footing, and keep more of our customers from being caught in the evil “middle man trap”. Martin AC DZ info@aircapitaldropzone.comExperience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcords 0 #856 February 16, 2005 It aggravates me that skyrides even uses dz.com to sleeze more business! On the dropzone page for pennsylvania, they have purchased the url for a dropzone that went bankrupt a couple of years ago, but has yet to be removed from the list for PA. So that gives them, not only twice the ads of the other dz's, but also twice the links from dz.com. A link from dz.com and uspa.org definitely help your search engine rankings more than just other dz links pages. It also means that on the dz locator, someone may be directed to their pa facility, when they actually live near the old location of the bankrupt dz and closer to a different dz than the one they are being inadvertantly directed to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #857 February 17, 2005 Could you send that DZ name in a Suggestion? The editor of the Dropzones should notice it there and can remove the old ad. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fincher 0 #858 February 17, 2005 The web sites are misleading, but skyrides is nothing more than a booking agent. Its the same thing that goes on in the travel/vacation business. This is america, and its called free enterprise. Seems like everyone is just mad b/c someone figured out how too make a bunch of money off skydiving. I dont see why anyone would care unless you own a dz and are losing money. I dont see why anyone wouldnt just join them and accept the certificates. Am i wrong or would that not just bring you more business? I guess what im trying to say is; if the only thing you have to think about or spend time on is the business practices of skyride, then your life must: A - Be really easy B - Be really meaningless c - Really suck I already feel like i've wasted ten minutes of my life! Now go forth and skydive, have fun, and GET A LIFEi'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #859 February 17, 2005 As about a dozen single post posters have done so far, you’ve completely missed the point. People are pissed with Skyride because it is conducting illegal activities such as theft of copyrighted photographs, cloning copyrighted websites, lying about fictional DZ’s and stright out bait and switch selling. All this brings the sport into disrepute – that harms every jumper, not just those who lose business through skyrides law breaking. Similar companies to skyride exist, conducting themselves in a lawful and ethical fashion. They too act as mere intermediaries… no one’s going after them like they are skyride. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
op5e 0 #860 February 17, 2005 If what I have read about skyride is correct it is alot different from a travel agent. For one the travel agent works with the hotels, resorts, airlines and takes a commision agreed with these companies. Where skyride does not contact the DZ and charges more to the consumer and hopes the DZ will take a pay cut. Then a travel agent normally will look for the best package for what the client wants. As from what I have read skyride sometimes misdirects consumers to DZs very far away. Also I think DZs work on boarder line margins to start with so to start to eat into these is ruining people who do it for the love of the sport. And then there are the misleading practices that they participate in. I can say I have alot of faith in my travel agent and the service they provide they definately deserve my money. Skyride does nothing for their money except mislead the public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #861 February 17, 2005 This coming from a person with no info in their profile.I'm glad you feel like you wasted your time posting here because I feel like I am wasting my time answering your post.I hope me wasting my time makes you feel better about wasting yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #862 February 17, 2005 Quote The web sites are misleading, but skyrides is nothing more than a booking agent. Its the same thing that goes on in the travel/vacation business. This is america, and its called free enterprise. Seems like everyone is just mad b/c someone figured out how too make a bunch of money off skydiving. I dont see why anyone would care unless you own a dz and are losing money. I dont see why anyone wouldnt just join them and accept the certificates. Am i wrong or would that not just bring you more business? I guess what im trying to say is; if the only thing you have to think about or spend time on is the business practices of skyride, then your life must: A - Be really easy B - Be really meaningless c - Really suck I already feel like i've wasted ten minutes of my life! Now go forth and skydive, have fun, and GET A LIFE Ok, so you're a student and jump at ASC or what? Or maybe your name is Ben or Cary? Fill out your profile unless your easy, meaningless, sucky life is just to full to take the time, or you would have to lie anyway. Hope this isn't "flaming" just using your own adjectives.Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpnrandy 0 #863 February 17, 2005 QuoteAs about a dozen single post posters have done so far, you’ve completely missed the point. IMHO, a lot of people are missing several points considering there are 36,421 registered users to dz.com and 144 of them have posted in this never ending thread. That is .00395% of dz.com users with their panties in a knot over Skyride. Now, what could the other 36,277 fine folks on dz.com possibly be thinking? Are they all that ignorant to the fact that Skyride exists? Have they been so terribly misinformed of the issue of Skyride and the plight of .00395% of the dz.com membership? Or, could it possibly be that a good majority of these 99.996% registered users of dz.com just don’t give a shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #864 February 17, 2005 QuoteOr, could it possibly be that a good majority of these 99.996% registered users of dz.com just don’t give a shit. Quite possibly you've missed the point. Its the truth, that the large majority of DZ.com users don't post, they simply read. And an even larger majority of those 30k+ usernames you saw have never been used or used once. Its common around the web to see that happen. So actually, if you look at the number of actual active users, a decent percentage are concerned about the theft of copyrighted material from other jumpers and shady business practices making the sport look bad. Not only that, but those users go to their DZs and talk with their jump friends who talk with their friends, etc. I'd have to say the good handful of DZs in TX have quite a few people who are fed up with Skyride. Unfortunately I've only been able to go out of state once since this issue has come up, but it was to a large boogie with people from around the nation so I got a pretty good sampling there in Florida. A lot of people are not happy. *shrug* Since none of my copyrighted material was stolen, I'm not personally involved with any sort of legal proceedings; however, I am disappointed that fellow skydivers would do that to fellow skydivers and that a fellow skydiver would go out of his way to make the sport look very bad to the public.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlmiracle 7 #865 February 17, 2005 The number of registered people on dz.com has NOTHING to do with the wrong doings of Skyride. As Aggiedave said, not all people post to dz.com, they just read it. Some people who want skyride gone aren't even registered on dz.com. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #866 February 18, 2005 QuoteI've only been able to go out of state once since this issue has come up, but it was to a large boogie with people from around the nation so I got a pretty good sampling there in Florida. A lot of people are not happy. You got that right. Not many actually post on here, but they are out there. 3 years ago I went to California to jump at Lodi, and people there were telling me they knew me from rec.skydiving because of my rants against ASC, and I'm all the way over here in Alabama. I was even told that jumpers at a certain boogie south of the border were talking about the whole brouhaha... I would hazard to say that possibly 5% of all the people who are pissed off at ASC/Skyride actually post here. This forum is a great tool, but so is word of mouth at the DZs... As for Fincher, since that was his first, and it seems, only post so far, I wouldn't waste any time dickering with him. He could be a Cary or Ben alias for all I care..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpnrandy 0 #867 February 18, 2005 QuoteUnfortunately I've only been able to go out of state once since this issue has come up, but it was to a large boogie with people from around the nation so I got a pretty good sampling there in Florida. A lot of people are not happy.Quote Hey Dave, You don't remember me but that is ok. I was at Collegiates and Z-Hills over the holidays. You got it now, right there beside you all the time. Even camped out and hung out by the fire. BTW, got some GREAT shots of your accuracy landings during the comp if you want them. Anyway, please consider that many of the "upset" people in Florida you spoke with during Collegiates and Z-Hills boogie are many of the same 144 who have posted to this never ending thread. That is sort of like a double sampling. Dave, I'm glad you understand the term "Standing". Since none of your copyrighted material was stolen, you have no “Standing” or right to be a part of any legal proceeding related to that non stolen material. This is the same mantra for many of the other posters involved. There are however, some involved in this thread that have "Standing" and they should seek legal remedy. The others, of course, have the right to keep bitching forever and FOREVER, but, perhaps this energy is better spent fighting against animal cruelty, Appalachian poverty, the homeless and tsunami victims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpnrandy 0 #868 February 18, 2005 QuoteThe number of registered people on dz.com has NOTHING to do with the wrong doings of Skyride. Judy Judy, Judy, Judy, I never said that it did. Please read the post agian. Panties in a knot are not a good thing. In with the good air out with the bad. May you fine peace, love and altitude. Randy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #869 February 18, 2005 QuoteBTW, got some GREAT shots of your accuracy landings during the comp if you want them. Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing them atleast. I got it now, I didn't put 2 and 2 together and put your post and you together in my mind. Well, that's what I get for believing in the "buffalo herd theory," my herd has thinned too far. As for the Skyride thing, its my preference and choice as well as your preference and choice, though our dealings with them at my DZ we were definately left with a less then happy ending. Thus we don't do business with them anymore.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fincher 0 #870 February 18, 2005 QuoteThis coming from a person with no info in their profile.I'm glad you feel like you wasted your time posting here because I feel like I am wasting my time answering your post.I hope me wasting my time makes you feel better about wasting yours. That was funny!i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dropzonefool 0 #871 February 18, 2005 With your profile blank what else is to be expected. In your original post in reply to Phreezone you stated in your opening sentence that Skyride was guilty but why such a big deal? You will find people here are passoniate about Skyride, and there are those who just follow the thread. There are those whos business are directly affected by Skyride, and there are just jumpers who are offended by the fact that skyride ripped off potential members. You will have to decide if it is worth it to continue to defend skyride, you will find you are talking to a "brick wall" in defense of Skyride illeagal practices. As a Tandem Instructor I have actually jumped Skyride certificates. It was an issue that I struggled with for some time and I posted it HERE just a few pages back. I didn't flame I just stated facts and NO ONE flamed me for it. Simple put why should someone who has figured out that they have over paid for a certificate not be able to redeem the purchase price and use another contractor with a cheaper price for the same service? After the encounter I told our DZO to up his price for skyride, our price is 180 and their is over 200 but only pay us 145. I told him we should charge Skyride full price sense NO ONE ELSE will accept there certificates, They will have to raise their prices, or fail. IN the end it will be the whuffo who will pay for their immoral practices. SO....you call them a booking agent? I call them a parasite. ---------------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fincher 0 #872 February 18, 2005 Ok, so you're a student and jump at ASC or what? Or maybe your name is Ben or Cary? Fill out your profile unless your easy, meaningless, sucky life is just to full to take the time, or you would have to lie anyway. Hope this isn't "flaming" just using your own adjectives. Will get around to filling out my profile eventually, but will let you know that i'm not a student at ASC. I also dont make ice cream...........oh yea, thats ben & jerry. Well im not those other two guys either. Flattered that everyone is so offended at my lack of profile info. I say we forget about skyride and go after the real criminals. Like rodeo clowns! What the hell are those all about?i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Eiley 0 #873 February 18, 2005 Quote I say we forget about skyride and go after the real criminals. Like rodeo clowns! What the hell are those all about? At least that's a better target than Randy's. He wants to fight against the homeless and tsunami victims. Sheesh! Like they don't have enough problems already! nothing to see here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fincher 0 #874 February 18, 2005 QuoteWith your profile blank what else is to be expected. In your original post in reply to Phreezone you stated in your opening sentence that Skyride was guilty but why such a big deal? You will find people here are passoniate about Skyride, and there are those who just follow the thread. There are those whos business are directly affected by Skyride, and there are just jumpers who are offended by the fact that skyride ripped off potential members. You will have to decide if it is worth it to continue to defend skyride, you will find you are talking to a "brick wall" in defense of Skyride illeagal practices. As a Tandem Instructor I have actually jumped Skyride certificates. It was an issue that I struggled with for some time and I posted it HERE just a few pages back. I didn't flame I just stated facts and NO ONE flamed me for it. Simple put why should someone who has figured out that they have over paid for a certificate not be able to redeem the purchase price and use another contractor with a cheaper price for the same service? After the encounter I told our DZO to up his price for skyride, our price is 180 and their is over 200 but only pay us 145. I told him we should charge Skyride full price sense NO ONE ELSE will accept there certificates, They will have to raise their prices, or fail. IN the end it will be the whuffo who will pay for their immoral practices. SO....you call them a booking agent? I call them a parasite. ---------------------------------------------------------- Is your profile old? if so then how dare you! If not then how are you a tandem instructor with less than 300 jumps? If your dz wants to charge skyride more then good for them. If they want too turn away business all together then good for them. Thats their right and I dont care. As far as your moral crisis youre having over jumping a skyride client. Well.........that just freaks me out! If youre taking tandems with less than 500 jumps, then that should be yours and your DZO's real moral crisis. Tell me your profile is old. Please! Then get off my back about my proflie and update yours so that you dont look like a liar . Dont mean to be ugly, but im not even sure you are telling the truth.i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dropzonefool 0 #875 February 18, 2005 that just freaks me out! <<<< --------------------------------------------------------- It is ok, a typical response from a student. You obviously have no idea about business and being a DZO or manager of a risk. -------------------------------------------------------- but im not even sure you are telling the truth. <<< ------------------------------------------------------ Pot calling the kettle black? Just who are you? Suddenly invading our forms with your bull! So just how many jumps do you have 5, 50, 5000 ? Just really tell me who the f^*k are you? You are either an instigator or a troll! Exactly what experience do you have? What dealings with Skyride do you have? How many VISA card transations have you conducted? What is your risk management? 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AggieDave 6 #864 February 17, 2005 QuoteOr, could it possibly be that a good majority of these 99.996% registered users of dz.com just don’t give a shit. Quite possibly you've missed the point. Its the truth, that the large majority of DZ.com users don't post, they simply read. And an even larger majority of those 30k+ usernames you saw have never been used or used once. Its common around the web to see that happen. So actually, if you look at the number of actual active users, a decent percentage are concerned about the theft of copyrighted material from other jumpers and shady business practices making the sport look bad. Not only that, but those users go to their DZs and talk with their jump friends who talk with their friends, etc. I'd have to say the good handful of DZs in TX have quite a few people who are fed up with Skyride. Unfortunately I've only been able to go out of state once since this issue has come up, but it was to a large boogie with people from around the nation so I got a pretty good sampling there in Florida. A lot of people are not happy. *shrug* Since none of my copyrighted material was stolen, I'm not personally involved with any sort of legal proceedings; however, I am disappointed that fellow skydivers would do that to fellow skydivers and that a fellow skydiver would go out of his way to make the sport look very bad to the public.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #865 February 17, 2005 The number of registered people on dz.com has NOTHING to do with the wrong doings of Skyride. As Aggiedave said, not all people post to dz.com, they just read it. Some people who want skyride gone aren't even registered on dz.com. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #866 February 18, 2005 QuoteI've only been able to go out of state once since this issue has come up, but it was to a large boogie with people from around the nation so I got a pretty good sampling there in Florida. A lot of people are not happy. You got that right. Not many actually post on here, but they are out there. 3 years ago I went to California to jump at Lodi, and people there were telling me they knew me from rec.skydiving because of my rants against ASC, and I'm all the way over here in Alabama. I was even told that jumpers at a certain boogie south of the border were talking about the whole brouhaha... I would hazard to say that possibly 5% of all the people who are pissed off at ASC/Skyride actually post here. This forum is a great tool, but so is word of mouth at the DZs... As for Fincher, since that was his first, and it seems, only post so far, I wouldn't waste any time dickering with him. He could be a Cary or Ben alias for all I care..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpnrandy 0 #867 February 18, 2005 QuoteUnfortunately I've only been able to go out of state once since this issue has come up, but it was to a large boogie with people from around the nation so I got a pretty good sampling there in Florida. A lot of people are not happy.Quote Hey Dave, You don't remember me but that is ok. I was at Collegiates and Z-Hills over the holidays. You got it now, right there beside you all the time. Even camped out and hung out by the fire. BTW, got some GREAT shots of your accuracy landings during the comp if you want them. Anyway, please consider that many of the "upset" people in Florida you spoke with during Collegiates and Z-Hills boogie are many of the same 144 who have posted to this never ending thread. That is sort of like a double sampling. Dave, I'm glad you understand the term "Standing". Since none of your copyrighted material was stolen, you have no “Standing” or right to be a part of any legal proceeding related to that non stolen material. This is the same mantra for many of the other posters involved. There are however, some involved in this thread that have "Standing" and they should seek legal remedy. The others, of course, have the right to keep bitching forever and FOREVER, but, perhaps this energy is better spent fighting against animal cruelty, Appalachian poverty, the homeless and tsunami victims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpnrandy 0 #868 February 18, 2005 QuoteThe number of registered people on dz.com has NOTHING to do with the wrong doings of Skyride. Judy Judy, Judy, Judy, I never said that it did. Please read the post agian. Panties in a knot are not a good thing. In with the good air out with the bad. May you fine peace, love and altitude. Randy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #869 February 18, 2005 QuoteBTW, got some GREAT shots of your accuracy landings during the comp if you want them. Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing them atleast. I got it now, I didn't put 2 and 2 together and put your post and you together in my mind. Well, that's what I get for believing in the "buffalo herd theory," my herd has thinned too far. As for the Skyride thing, its my preference and choice as well as your preference and choice, though our dealings with them at my DZ we were definately left with a less then happy ending. Thus we don't do business with them anymore.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fincher 0 #870 February 18, 2005 QuoteThis coming from a person with no info in their profile.I'm glad you feel like you wasted your time posting here because I feel like I am wasting my time answering your post.I hope me wasting my time makes you feel better about wasting yours. That was funny!i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dropzonefool 0 #871 February 18, 2005 With your profile blank what else is to be expected. In your original post in reply to Phreezone you stated in your opening sentence that Skyride was guilty but why such a big deal? You will find people here are passoniate about Skyride, and there are those who just follow the thread. There are those whos business are directly affected by Skyride, and there are just jumpers who are offended by the fact that skyride ripped off potential members. You will have to decide if it is worth it to continue to defend skyride, you will find you are talking to a "brick wall" in defense of Skyride illeagal practices. As a Tandem Instructor I have actually jumped Skyride certificates. It was an issue that I struggled with for some time and I posted it HERE just a few pages back. I didn't flame I just stated facts and NO ONE flamed me for it. Simple put why should someone who has figured out that they have over paid for a certificate not be able to redeem the purchase price and use another contractor with a cheaper price for the same service? After the encounter I told our DZO to up his price for skyride, our price is 180 and their is over 200 but only pay us 145. I told him we should charge Skyride full price sense NO ONE ELSE will accept there certificates, They will have to raise their prices, or fail. IN the end it will be the whuffo who will pay for their immoral practices. SO....you call them a booking agent? I call them a parasite. ---------------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fincher 0 #872 February 18, 2005 Ok, so you're a student and jump at ASC or what? Or maybe your name is Ben or Cary? Fill out your profile unless your easy, meaningless, sucky life is just to full to take the time, or you would have to lie anyway. Hope this isn't "flaming" just using your own adjectives. Will get around to filling out my profile eventually, but will let you know that i'm not a student at ASC. I also dont make ice cream...........oh yea, thats ben & jerry. Well im not those other two guys either. Flattered that everyone is so offended at my lack of profile info. I say we forget about skyride and go after the real criminals. Like rodeo clowns! What the hell are those all about?i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Eiley 0 #873 February 18, 2005 Quote I say we forget about skyride and go after the real criminals. Like rodeo clowns! What the hell are those all about? At least that's a better target than Randy's. He wants to fight against the homeless and tsunami victims. Sheesh! Like they don't have enough problems already! nothing to see here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fincher 0 #874 February 18, 2005 QuoteWith your profile blank what else is to be expected. In your original post in reply to Phreezone you stated in your opening sentence that Skyride was guilty but why such a big deal? You will find people here are passoniate about Skyride, and there are those who just follow the thread. There are those whos business are directly affected by Skyride, and there are just jumpers who are offended by the fact that skyride ripped off potential members. You will have to decide if it is worth it to continue to defend skyride, you will find you are talking to a "brick wall" in defense of Skyride illeagal practices. As a Tandem Instructor I have actually jumped Skyride certificates. It was an issue that I struggled with for some time and I posted it HERE just a few pages back. I didn't flame I just stated facts and NO ONE flamed me for it. Simple put why should someone who has figured out that they have over paid for a certificate not be able to redeem the purchase price and use another contractor with a cheaper price for the same service? After the encounter I told our DZO to up his price for skyride, our price is 180 and their is over 200 but only pay us 145. I told him we should charge Skyride full price sense NO ONE ELSE will accept there certificates, They will have to raise their prices, or fail. IN the end it will be the whuffo who will pay for their immoral practices. SO....you call them a booking agent? I call them a parasite. ---------------------------------------------------------- Is your profile old? if so then how dare you! If not then how are you a tandem instructor with less than 300 jumps? If your dz wants to charge skyride more then good for them. If they want too turn away business all together then good for them. Thats their right and I dont care. As far as your moral crisis youre having over jumping a skyride client. Well.........that just freaks me out! If youre taking tandems with less than 500 jumps, then that should be yours and your DZO's real moral crisis. Tell me your profile is old. Please! Then get off my back about my proflie and update yours so that you dont look like a liar . Dont mean to be ugly, but im not even sure you are telling the truth.i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dropzonefool 0 #875 February 18, 2005 that just freaks me out! <<<< --------------------------------------------------------- It is ok, a typical response from a student. You obviously have no idea about business and being a DZO or manager of a risk. -------------------------------------------------------- but im not even sure you are telling the truth. <<< ------------------------------------------------------ Pot calling the kettle black? Just who are you? Suddenly invading our forms with your bull! So just how many jumps do you have 5, 50, 5000 ? Just really tell me who the f^*k are you? You are either an instigator or a troll! Exactly what experience do you have? What dealings with Skyride do you have? How many VISA card transations have you conducted? What is your risk management? Which DZ are you staff of? Do you have a clue? ----------------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 Next Page 35 of 92 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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jumpnrandy 0 #868 February 18, 2005 QuoteThe number of registered people on dz.com has NOTHING to do with the wrong doings of Skyride. Judy Judy, Judy, Judy, I never said that it did. Please read the post agian. Panties in a knot are not a good thing. In with the good air out with the bad. May you fine peace, love and altitude. Randy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #869 February 18, 2005 QuoteBTW, got some GREAT shots of your accuracy landings during the comp if you want them. Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing them atleast. I got it now, I didn't put 2 and 2 together and put your post and you together in my mind. Well, that's what I get for believing in the "buffalo herd theory," my herd has thinned too far. As for the Skyride thing, its my preference and choice as well as your preference and choice, though our dealings with them at my DZ we were definately left with a less then happy ending. Thus we don't do business with them anymore.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fincher 0 #870 February 18, 2005 QuoteThis coming from a person with no info in their profile.I'm glad you feel like you wasted your time posting here because I feel like I am wasting my time answering your post.I hope me wasting my time makes you feel better about wasting yours. That was funny!i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropzonefool 0 #871 February 18, 2005 With your profile blank what else is to be expected. In your original post in reply to Phreezone you stated in your opening sentence that Skyride was guilty but why such a big deal? You will find people here are passoniate about Skyride, and there are those who just follow the thread. There are those whos business are directly affected by Skyride, and there are just jumpers who are offended by the fact that skyride ripped off potential members. You will have to decide if it is worth it to continue to defend skyride, you will find you are talking to a "brick wall" in defense of Skyride illeagal practices. As a Tandem Instructor I have actually jumped Skyride certificates. It was an issue that I struggled with for some time and I posted it HERE just a few pages back. I didn't flame I just stated facts and NO ONE flamed me for it. Simple put why should someone who has figured out that they have over paid for a certificate not be able to redeem the purchase price and use another contractor with a cheaper price for the same service? After the encounter I told our DZO to up his price for skyride, our price is 180 and their is over 200 but only pay us 145. I told him we should charge Skyride full price sense NO ONE ELSE will accept there certificates, They will have to raise their prices, or fail. IN the end it will be the whuffo who will pay for their immoral practices. SO....you call them a booking agent? I call them a parasite. ---------------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fincher 0 #872 February 18, 2005 Ok, so you're a student and jump at ASC or what? Or maybe your name is Ben or Cary? Fill out your profile unless your easy, meaningless, sucky life is just to full to take the time, or you would have to lie anyway. Hope this isn't "flaming" just using your own adjectives. Will get around to filling out my profile eventually, but will let you know that i'm not a student at ASC. I also dont make ice cream...........oh yea, thats ben & jerry. Well im not those other two guys either. Flattered that everyone is so offended at my lack of profile info. I say we forget about skyride and go after the real criminals. Like rodeo clowns! What the hell are those all about?i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eiley 0 #873 February 18, 2005 Quote I say we forget about skyride and go after the real criminals. Like rodeo clowns! What the hell are those all about? At least that's a better target than Randy's. He wants to fight against the homeless and tsunami victims. Sheesh! Like they don't have enough problems already! nothing to see here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fincher 0 #874 February 18, 2005 QuoteWith your profile blank what else is to be expected. In your original post in reply to Phreezone you stated in your opening sentence that Skyride was guilty but why such a big deal? You will find people here are passoniate about Skyride, and there are those who just follow the thread. There are those whos business are directly affected by Skyride, and there are just jumpers who are offended by the fact that skyride ripped off potential members. You will have to decide if it is worth it to continue to defend skyride, you will find you are talking to a "brick wall" in defense of Skyride illeagal practices. As a Tandem Instructor I have actually jumped Skyride certificates. It was an issue that I struggled with for some time and I posted it HERE just a few pages back. I didn't flame I just stated facts and NO ONE flamed me for it. Simple put why should someone who has figured out that they have over paid for a certificate not be able to redeem the purchase price and use another contractor with a cheaper price for the same service? After the encounter I told our DZO to up his price for skyride, our price is 180 and their is over 200 but only pay us 145. I told him we should charge Skyride full price sense NO ONE ELSE will accept there certificates, They will have to raise their prices, or fail. IN the end it will be the whuffo who will pay for their immoral practices. SO....you call them a booking agent? I call them a parasite. ---------------------------------------------------------- Is your profile old? if so then how dare you! If not then how are you a tandem instructor with less than 300 jumps? If your dz wants to charge skyride more then good for them. If they want too turn away business all together then good for them. Thats their right and I dont care. As far as your moral crisis youre having over jumping a skyride client. Well.........that just freaks me out! If youre taking tandems with less than 500 jumps, then that should be yours and your DZO's real moral crisis. Tell me your profile is old. Please! Then get off my back about my proflie and update yours so that you dont look like a liar . Dont mean to be ugly, but im not even sure you are telling the truth.i'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your packing tent down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropzonefool 0 #875 February 18, 2005 that just freaks me out! <<<< --------------------------------------------------------- It is ok, a typical response from a student. You obviously have no idea about business and being a DZO or manager of a risk. -------------------------------------------------------- but im not even sure you are telling the truth. <<< ------------------------------------------------------ Pot calling the kettle black? Just who are you? Suddenly invading our forms with your bull! So just how many jumps do you have 5, 50, 5000 ? Just really tell me who the f^*k are you? You are either an instigator or a troll! Exactly what experience do you have? What dealings with Skyride do you have? How many VISA card transations have you conducted? What is your risk management? Which DZ are you staff of? Do you have a clue? ----------------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
