Levin 0 #301 November 17, 2004 QuoteRE posted to add...... while visiting the link Levin posted for Skydiv"ING" Houston. I clicked on the clicky, sent an email to >info@skydivinghouston.com< asking where they were located in Houston? I received a reply today from >www.skydivehouston.com< today stating they were located 45 minuets west of houston in Waller, TX. Puzzled at first, then thought, Skyride has hijacked thier e-mail too? well maybe Skydivers find it exhilerating to hang poised between immortality, and the reality of death......I don't know who to quote. www.skydivinghouston.com is SkyRide. www.skydivehouston.com is Waller. The SkyRide website (skydivinghouston) currently has an email for reservations@skydivehouston.com on the contact page. This just recently popped up on that site in the past few days. Skydive Houston's main email is info@skydivehouston.com. They do not use reservations@skydivehouston.com. They never created that email. Skydive Houston is right now looking into this. But I do not believe they know (at the moment) what to do about it. Apparantly the PARASITE has hijacked their email. I advised manifest at Waller to use the link for the FBI tips provided by BlueEyedMonster. I'm not really sure what to do about this either. Anyone have any ideas? As for the reply you received, SkydiveHouston is not sure they sent that reply. Manifest at SkydiveHouston todat called the SkyRide number on the skydivinghouston website. The tried to find out where this fictitous DZ was located. The person they talked to at Skyride gave them directions to Spaceland without ever saying Spaceland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #302 November 17, 2004 I just emailed them QuoteI just found your site and am wondering just which dropzone you are? I can’t find your dropzone on uspa.org? Are you a new DZ? How do I get to your place when I am down in Arizona next month? What will my jumps cost me? I am always looking for new places to Jump and would love to come make a jump at your DZ. Please email me ASAP so I can add your DZ to my travel arrangements Wonder what the reply will be??? MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #303 November 17, 2004 QuoteThe pain you feel must be pretty bad inside huh? it's not pain. it's disgust. Quotefor you not even be able to come meet the people at ASC they are way cool. huh? i'm in texas dude. i'm not travelling across 4 states to check out a PARASITE's place of business. i never said the people weren't way cool. most of the people in this sport are way cool. why would i assume asc jumpers are any different. what i said was, ASC jumpers are part of a parasite support structure because they put their money in a PARASITE's pocket. i am quit sure that 99% of all ASC fun jumpers are not involved in ASC's DZ politics and jump their just because they have fun jumping there. that is why i keep saying it is important to inform the jumpers at ASC about this issue so that they will realize their money spent jumping is being used to invest in the destruction of our sport. QuoteIf this so important to my dz than why don't I see it here. because this PARASITE shits in other people's backyards. not his own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #304 November 17, 2004 the email on the SkyRide site (skydivinghouston) is going to to Skydive Houston. Apparantly the PARASITE screwed up and left the "ing" off of skydive on his contact email. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #305 November 17, 2004 Quotethe email on the SkyRide site (skydivinghouston) is going to to Skydive Houston. Apparantly the PARASITE screwed up and left the "ing" off of skydive on his contact email. yes. the MX entries for the two domains are fine. So Skydive Houston would do well to add an account entry for "reservations" and reap the benefits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #307 November 17, 2004 QuoteApparantly the PARASITE screwed up and left the "ing" off of skydive on his contact email. Don't know that it would have been a mistake.... It is this way on their map for many REAL DZs. "reservations"@domain-name.com Think about it. You send a note to a DZ, and it bounces because the "reservations" account does not exist on their domain. What's gonna happen? Click the next guy on the map... That actually links to a web site where you can see pictures...and it says SKYRIDE in big letters. The Skyride guys aren't stupid... just scum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #308 November 17, 2004 Quote Think about it. You send a note to a DZ, and it bounces because the "reservations" account does not exist on their domain. What's gonna happen? Click the next guy on the map... That actually links to a web site where you can see pictures...and it says SKYRIDE in big letters. The Skyride guys aren't stupid... just scum. But it's on their (skyride) website that the bounce happens! I think it this case it was clearly stupid, not scum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #309 November 17, 2004 QuoteDAMN! and I spent all night working on http://www.1800skyrider.com Cool!! Wonder how many clicks it will take to get it to the top of a google search. keep clicking and see. www.1800skyrider.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #310 November 18, 2004 Seems to me that all y'all who have your panties in a wad over skyride need to have a talk with your dzo's. Tell em your really freakin jealous of these people who can have a seven day a week dropzone with twin - otter loads all the time and where it's no big deal for a jumper to do around 250 jumps in his first year on a packer's salary. Then tell em that you can do that too with one simple little thing, marketing. Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #311 November 18, 2004 Google doesn't know how many hits a web page gets unless the hits come from google. Gotta get the site to come up when someone searches for skydiving. Hell, it's hard to find 1800skyride when you do a google search for skyride. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #312 November 18, 2004 Marketing? What is ASC, a cult?? Skyride is the exact type of thing that prevents LEGAL marketing from being effective. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #313 November 18, 2004 i did a google search for skyride and skyrider just to see if your site was showing up on the list. after doing i skyrider search i noticed that Skyrider is a brand of ultralight. In earlier post in this thread someone said they had started a class action lawsuit when they got ripped on multiple tandems. That persons user name is quicksilver. Quicksilver is a very popular ultralight that has been around forever. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?username=quiksilver;guest=8025207 I have a gut feeling that Claire is really Cary and Cary is an avid ultralight pilot. I could be wrong but I think that whole lawsuit thing was just bullshit to try and shut this thread up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noctralucent 0 #314 November 18, 2004 Well thanks for saying we here at ASC are not scum. this and many DZ's around the country most likley have a skeleton in the closet. However your mixing my dz my friends, teachers and riggers up with some fraud that besides an old web site that anyone could have made I see no connection to asc. Plus if there is a parasitic fraud like you claim at ASC the FBI will be coming until they do BE NICE because I bet if I had a look around your closet you would be into some illegal stuff as well. You should be digusted is your blanket coments about us who jump at ASC as being parasitic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #315 November 18, 2004 QuoteMarketing? What is ASC, a cult?? Skyride is the exact type of thing that prevents LEGAL marketing from being effective. Dave Marketing, yes, another word for it advertising. Getting the word out, whether it be throught websites or billboards or whatever. Yeah, more people should now about skydiving and places they might contact if they were interested in doing so. Is ASC a cult? Well, they did make me bow to the golden drogue.... Hah, seriously. have you ever been to ASC? If not, come on down, I'm sure that most fun jumpers would be suprised to find that it's not a bunch of storm troopers marching to Darth's orders but rather a place where some very good skydivers (and some on their way to being very good) call home. Those of us who are there on a daily basis love fun jumpers, and while the tandem mill aspect keeps us alive, it also provides us and them with the only 7 day a week dropzone within what is about a 300 mile radius of the city of atlanta. Not too shabby if you ask me. Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #316 November 18, 2004 I get the whole support your DZ no matter what thing. Don't think you are immune because you jump there. Very few to no skydivers spend their entire jumping career at one DZ. One day you may decide to move somewhere else and your home DZ will change. You may find yourself on the other side of the fence. Especially if you later on decide get ratings and go the instructor route. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #317 November 18, 2004 QuoteWell thanks for saying we here at ASC are not scum. this and many DZ's around the country most likley have a skeleton in the closet. However your mixing my dz my friends, teachers and riggers up with some fraud that besides an old web site that anyone could have made I see no connection to asc. Plus if there is a parasitic fraud like you claim at ASC the FBI will be coming until they do BE NICE because I bet if I had a look around your closet you would be into some illegal stuff as well. what you should be digusted is your blanket coments about us who jump at ASC as being parasitic. I never said you or your friends are scum. I said you and your friends are part of a parasite support structure. You spend your money at the PARASITE's place of business. That money goes into the PARASITE's pocket and is used to further invest his infection on our sport. Quotebesides an old web site that anyone could have made I see no connection to asc the old website happens to be over 400 fictitous websites for businesses that do not exist. The owner of these websites and SkyRide is the same PARASITE that owns ASC. Instead of blindly trying to support and defend your home DZ I suggest you go do some research and educate yourself about what is going on behind the scene right in front of your face. Get a clue dude. edit: almost forgot to address this QuoteI bet if I had a look around your closet you would be into some illegal stuff as well what the hell are talking about? are you saying no one should say anything because everybody does illegal stuff and that makes us all illegal hypocrits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #318 November 18, 2004 QuoteUnnecessary pointed comment edited by slotperfect This is a very important thread for those of us who skydive in the U.S. It is critical for this thread to remain civil and objective. Please keep it from elevating to personal attacks, keep it on topic, and keep it free from "noise." Unnecessary pointed comments that could spark a flame war and destroy the thread will be edited or removed. Cheers.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #319 November 18, 2004 sorry dude. i don't think it qualified as a personal attack. more like a frustrated comment. i agree it could have sparked a retaliation reply. i stand moderated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #320 November 18, 2004 Quotei don't think it qualified as a personal attack. It wasn't . . . that's why I called it a "pointed comment." Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #321 November 18, 2004 Quotei did a google search for skyride and skyrider just to see if your site was showing up on the list. after doing i skyrider search i noticed that Skyrider is a brand of ultralight. In earlier post in this thread someone said they had started a class action lawsuit when they got ripped on multiple tandems. That persons user name is quicksilver. Quicksilver is a very popular ultralight that has been around forever. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?username=quiksilver;guest=8025207 I have a gut feeling that Claire is really Cary and Cary is an avid ultralight pilot. I could be wrong but I think that whole lawsuit thing was just bullshit to try and shut this thread up. now your paranoid. cary isnt an ultralight pilot.. i can see him right now laughing his ass off at that comment. im not taking any sides whatsoever. i cans see the disgust also. but i just thought that was funny.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #322 November 18, 2004 QuoteThis is a very important thread for those of us who skydive in the U.S. I agree that it is important but also for those outside of the U.S. whose drop zones have been affected by Skyride. QuoteIt is critical for this thread to remain civil and objective. Absolutely so. For those that are relatively new to the sport, I would suggest that you visit www.funjumper.com/skyride and read what is there prior to posting. There is much to be learned from Jan's site. Lets all play nicely and keep to the topic at hand. Regards! B2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #323 November 18, 2004 Quotenow your paranoid. cary isnt an ultralight pilot.. i can see him right now laughing his ass off at that comment. LOL. I guess if he was he would be selling certificates for ultralight rides on SkyRide. Ooops! Did I just say that? My Apologies to the ultralight community. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #324 November 18, 2004 Interesting. http://www.Ecubit.com is registered to Cary. They're an IT company. I'm guessing he knows his shit when it comes to computers, like many have said. Not sure why he didn't do a better job of hiding his personal affiliation with skyride, but hey, makes my life easier. Another way we might be able to do something. It seems that many of the skyride non-existant dropzone websites are registered through http://www.enom.com. On their "about us" page, they say: "Please send notices of Copyright Infringement to eNom's legal department: eNom, Inc. Attn. Legal 2002 156th Ave. NE, Suite #300 Unigard Park, McKinley Building Bellevue, WA 98007 USA Phone: 425.274.4500 Email: legal@enom.com" Anyone have SPECIFIC instances of copyright infringement shown on a site registered with enom? You can find where their sites are registered at http://www.betterwhois.com. If it comes back at the top with ENOM.com, it can be included. Same kind of thing can be done at network solutions where other domains of theirs are registered. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #325 November 18, 2004 I'm interested to hear about the Skydive Arizona and the website Skydiving Arizona thing. If it is not relevant to this thread than would someone please PM me with some details please. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites