Kind Of a Lot of Fatalities Lately

[Muppetdog 0]

It just seems there has been a lot here in the US lately. There have been 5 with in the past month. That is a 60 person a year average, yikes.

Blues,
MD

[AdrenalinJunkie 0]

Well being new in the game I noticed a lot of other new people. When you add to the populaton then consider the addition to the population isn't experianced the chance of death goes way up.

[kelpdiver 2]

5 this month is bad. But for the year it is still "good."

AJ - the students aren't generally the ones in these deaths. Usually it's the more experienced jumpers, who are doing more jumps and more difficult/risky manuevers.

[skypuppy 1]

Well being new in the game I noticed a lot of other new people. When you add to the populaton then consider the addition to the population isn't experianced the chance of death goes way up.
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The two CRW guys in Colorado were both way experienced world record holders, Chris Martin in Arizona had 5700jumps+, Slim and Jason F both had several hundred BASE jumps (in slim's case over 1000)...

These are not inexperienced people. The fatality in the Beaver Valley plane crash was an experienced jumper as well.

To balance there was the student at the Ranch, and another person with little experience (in Ill.?)

Yes there has been a rash of accidents this past few weeks, but no, they are not all or even mostly students.

Shit happens

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[skyhighkiy 0]

look @ fatality database, 35% of deaths are from low turns in to the ground, look @ the jump #'s of those ppl.

BE THE BUDDHA!

[bmoore21184 0]

I am just SO glad i did not add to the list (broken femur in CO guy here). Another 20 or 30 feet of alitittude and I believe I would be on your list.

B Moore

'Turbulence is a bitch'

[tbrown 26]

Hey Muppy the 60 a year figure is pure unadulterated bullshit, so just get off it. Truth is the count for 2004 is way BELOW average, even though there have been a few more than we'd like to see since August.

Bottom line is this ain't no free ride. If'n you don't like it, then stay home & watch "reality" TeeVee. We do the real thing and try as hard as we can, shit happens and real people die now & then. It's skydiving baby, love it or leave it.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[kelpdiver 2]

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Hey Muppy the 60 a year figure is pure unadulterated bullshit, so just get off it. Truth is the count for 2004 is way BELOW average, even though there have been a few more than we'd like to see since August.

It's not bullshit, it's simple math. Thankfully most months are better than that, though if a big chunk of the country takes 4 months off for winter, the rate isn't that far off.

[Praetorian 1]

The math is as fair as taking a month with 1 or 0 deaths and saying yay the average for the year is 0! or 12! taking an anomoly and applying averaging math is a trick ..

"there a are lies, Damn Lies, and statistics" Mark Twain (Samual Clements)

Good Judgment comes from experience...a lot of experience comes from bad
judgment.

[kelpdiver 2]

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The math is as fair as taking a month with 1 or 0 deaths and saying yay the average for the year is 0! or 12! taking an anomoly and applying averaging math is a trick ..

It is if the person doesn't mention that he's using a month sample to make the year claim. The original poster merely remarked that there have been a lot LATELY, given that there have been 5 in the month, which would translate into a 60/yr rate. No deception there.

Anyone taking umbrage at that might be trying to convince themselves this is a safe sport.