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QuoteRon, you it a home run with this posting – well said…
Psst, don't encourage him... it will just make him post more...
"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP
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I'm a newbie and I always will be. Perhaps I would feel differently if I jumped at a small DZ with very few people with over a thousand jumps, but Z-hills sees many people with 5,000+ and 10,000+ jumps, and Skydive Dallas has a lot of old-timers too.
It's all relative, kind of like with age. When you are 10, you think 20-year olds are ANCIENT! I remember thinking my brother was OLD when he was in college and I was still in the 7th grade. I thought he was a grown-up. Ha!
I thought I'd feel "experienced" when I hit 1,000 jumps, but that is fast approaching. I will hit it later this year, and I feel FAR from experienced. It's okay though, it keeps me from getting in over my head or becoming complacent.
It's an interesting topic...very subjective. I cringe a little when the press calls someone with 30 jumps "experienced," but I can understand why they would say that. When I had 0 jumps and knew nobody in the sport, I thought 30 jumps was a lot as well. I had no idea people jumped hundreds or thousands of times.
It's all relative, kind of like with age. When you are 10, you think 20-year olds are ANCIENT! I remember thinking my brother was OLD when he was in college and I was still in the 7th grade. I thought he was a grown-up. Ha!
I thought I'd feel "experienced" when I hit 1,000 jumps, but that is fast approaching. I will hit it later this year, and I feel FAR from experienced. It's okay though, it keeps me from getting in over my head or becoming complacent.
It's an interesting topic...very subjective. I cringe a little when the press calls someone with 30 jumps "experienced," but I can understand why they would say that. When I had 0 jumps and knew nobody in the sport, I thought 30 jumps was a lot as well. I had no idea people jumped hundreds or thousands of times.
Ron 10
QuotePsst, don't encourage him... it will just make him post more...
But its the kinder gentler Ron...with Smileys....Didn't you notice the Damn smileys??????
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
Shark 0
Hydro,
Rather than arguing here on-line, why don't you jump with the guy? I've jumped with guys that are SOS and JOS members and had a great time with them. A lot of them are very competent skydivers, and a lot of fun to be around.
You are in SoCal and can probably find Sparky at one of the two DZs. Don't be intimidated by his gray hair and beard. He's really a cool guy and good skydiver. Now, the Harley, that's something to be afraid of.
As for my experience, most of my jumps are AFF, close to 1,000 along with 600 tandems. I do not get to do many fun jumps, but supplement that with tunnel time during the evenings as it permits. I don't really consider myself experienced, but I have done somethings more than most. I also learn from others, some with less jumps than I have. I respect and admire a lot of people in skydiving, and many of those have not been in the sport that long, nor have they compiled that many jumps. eg. a 20 jump dude teaching me freefly techniques in the tunnel.
Be humble and keep learning.
Shark out.
Rather than arguing here on-line, why don't you jump with the guy? I've jumped with guys that are SOS and JOS members and had a great time with them. A lot of them are very competent skydivers, and a lot of fun to be around.
You are in SoCal and can probably find Sparky at one of the two DZs. Don't be intimidated by his gray hair and beard. He's really a cool guy and good skydiver. Now, the Harley, that's something to be afraid of.
As for my experience, most of my jumps are AFF, close to 1,000 along with 600 tandems. I do not get to do many fun jumps, but supplement that with tunnel time during the evenings as it permits. I don't really consider myself experienced, but I have done somethings more than most. I also learn from others, some with less jumps than I have. I respect and admire a lot of people in skydiving, and many of those have not been in the sport that long, nor have they compiled that many jumps. eg. a 20 jump dude teaching me freefly techniques in the tunnel.
Be humble and keep learning.
Shark out.
I think we should ground all those old bastards and make more room for us young guys.....
Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.
Ron 10
Anyone else see the humor here?
QuoteI think we should ground all those old bastards and make more room for us young guys.....
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Skydivesg
Jumps : 5600
License : D 10938
In sport : 32 years
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
QuoteNice ones Mike, keep them coming. So far every post you've made to this thread has been to try and belittle me...not one relating to the thread itself.
It doesn't feel good when someone belittles you on the net does it? Remember that the next time you feel the urge to do it to someone else.
QuoteSince you obviously have tenure and consider yourself experienced, please be the nice knowing mentor to myself and whoever else is reading this and enlighten us as to your views on:
I am not sure what you mean by having “tenure” since your involvement in this sport can end with your next jump.
And yes I do consider myself experienced in some aspects of the sport. But there are many more aspects that I am not very experienced in. I think your interests determine what area you will become experienced in.
Time in the sport can mean a great deal or it can mean shit. It is all about the individual. A jumper can have 15 years in the sport and has spent the time listening and learning something from everyone he meets up with. Or a jumper can have 1 year in the sport repeated 15 times and not know his ass from a hot rock.
With 15 years in the sport a jumper can acquire a great deal of knowledge about skydiving but if he doesn’t jump very often the knowledge is just academic. I know a lot of jumpers that have only half as much time in the sport as I do but 2 or 3 times the jumps. They are much better at flying then I ever will be. On the other hand in 15 years a jumper can acquire a great deal of knowledge about gear and hardly jump at all. This knowledge I would say translates to experience. I think the secret to becoming an experienced jumper is to become a well-rounded jumper. Its not about numbers, its about always being willing to learn. The ground doesn’t care how long you have been around or how many jumps you have, it will kill you if given a chance. The more you learn the less chance the ground has.
QuoteThere are three things every jump consists of...packing, pulling, landing.
There are 2 things that you must do on each skydive in order to survive. One is to deploy a landable canopy and two is the land that canopy safely. It does not matter how many points you turned or how long your swoop was. If you do not perform these 2 tasks it is safe to say you will not survive.
If you can walk away from the landing, I would say you landed safely.
Now that is something experence has taught me.
Sparky
My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals
QuoteI know hot shots that are great jumpers that don't know what a Nova is.
Now would that be "Nova" the canopy or "Nova" the cantainer system?
Sparky
My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals
velo90 0
QuoteQuoteThere are three things every jump consists of...packing, pulling, landing.
There are 2 things that you must do on each skydive in order to survive. One is to deploy a landable canopy and two is the land that canopy safely.
There is only one thing you must do on each skydive in order to survive - "land the canopy safely".
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QuoteAnyone else see the humor here?
QuoteI think we should ground all those old bastards and make more room for us young guys.....
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Skydivesg
Jumps : 5600
License : D 10938
In sport : 32 years
I'm being mocked for being POPS eligible end of this year.
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. Sandy's young at heart though (that's what us young pups say when we don't want the geezers to feel too bad.)
I see the humor - and I weep and wail with happiness whenever it hits.
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
Quote...Someone asks me who's a good 'experienced' skydiver, I ask them what are they working on. Then I'll say go see "that guy", he's good at {what you are asking about". That's done without even answering their spoken question and gets down to what are they trying to accomplish and who specifically is a decent fellow that can really help them. If I think I can help them directly, I will also...
Now THIS is the kind of experience I would want at my DZ...fortunately, we have more than one with this kind of attitude...Thanks, Bill.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
Few years ago I remember reading in Parachutist something about experience, it went something like:
“Gusty windy days are when the experienced skydivers sit out by the landing area and watch the inexperienced skydivers gain experience”.
Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat…
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