floridadiver81 0 #1 May 14, 2007 So i bought a rig..as most of you know. I know i cant jump it unless i have an AAD...at least before i get the A. Would you just rent gear until the license is attained or would you just suck it up and buy an AAD?"Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #2 May 15, 2007 How many rentals would you need? Apply that to the cost of the AAD. Pretty simple choice to me. Buy the AAD.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnskydiver688 0 #3 May 15, 2007 How much does it cost to rent gear per jump? That money could be put towards an AAD. Also look at a used AAD and that would help knock the total cost down a bit too.Sky Canyon Wingsuiters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apollard24 0 #4 May 15, 2007 Have you checked the price of a used AADBreathe out so I can breathe you in... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridadiver81 0 #5 May 15, 2007 ive been checking the classifieds for a used aad....most of the adds are people wanting aad's "Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #6 May 15, 2007 QuoteSo i bought a rig..as most of you know. I know i cant jump it unless i have an AAD...at least before i get the A. Would you just rent gear until the license is attained or would you just suck it up and buy an AAD? An 11-year old Cypres which had its 8 year and fresh batteries installed a year ago is worth about $150 of which you'll get $80 back using the standard Cypres pricing model $trade-in ($80) + ( original price - trade-in) * (1 - age / 12 years) - $4-year ($160) * (1 - years since scheduled inspection/4) - $batteries ($75 from Airtec, $85 local) * (1 - years since replacement / 2) where original price is arround $900 for a Cypres-1 bought when the dollar was strong versus the Deutsche mark or working back from the $1300 Cypres-2 MSRP less the $400 more a Cypres-1 will cost in battery replacements over its 12 year lifespan. Other cases of Cypres pricing are more complex. A 10 year old Cypres that's worth $220 for trade-in value and time remaining becomes worthless when you subtract $160 for the inspection and $75 for batteries. That doesn't make much sense, so you might look at it from the perspective of the $140 a year you'll pay for a brand new Cypres-2 assuming 12 years of life and no trade-in value. In the 10-year old timed out case that would be $80 + $280 - $160 - $75 = $125 to the seller and $235 to AirTec. A 4-8 year old Cypres which missed its 4-year is especially messy; since getting the 4 year doesn't change when the 8-year is due. In the classic method you'd subtract $160 for the missed maintenance and $160 * (years remaining to 8 year/4). When you're getting down at the end of a Cypres's life a lot of people don't find them worth selling. You might ask local jumpers what they have floating arround in their closet. You should know up to 46 of them from the cases of beer you bought for graduating from the student program and buying your first rig. Some DZOs think having an AAD is such a good idea that they'll sell you one at their cost. I've heard of at least one case where the purchase came with interest-free financing, with the provision that the AAD and therefore rig had to stay at the DZ until it was paid off. You might see if deals like that are available locally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tombuch 0 #7 May 15, 2007 Duh! I'd buy the AAD. Obviously you need it now, until you get your A, but you should be using an AAD for the rest of forever. Buy the AAD now.Tom Buchanan Instructor Emeritus Comm Pilot MSEL,G Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
docjohn 0 #8 May 15, 2007 I'd buy an AAD. BTW, I'd also use a better title in my next post, like "Should I buy an AAD?" . Doc http://www.manifestmaster.com/video Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #9 May 15, 2007 Buy the aad, better to have it and not need it, then to need it and have your friends wishing you had bought it."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #10 May 15, 2007 I'm in a similar situation - I have a rig but no Cypres. Personally, I've been limiting myself to H&Ps and solo CRW jumps, taking this as an opportunity to beef up on my knowledge of the new canopy. Nobody's gonna cork and take me out on a CRW jump, but the decision to jump without a CYPRES is a personal one. I'm just waiting for the right AAD at the right price at this point.I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milo 0 #11 May 15, 2007 I'd learn to pack or mow lawns or manifest for jumps on the rental gear until I saved enough for an AAD. All the while explaining my predicament to any deep pocketed skydivers who might have one for sale cheap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #12 May 15, 2007 Hi again, Buy an AAD. I need one for an event I'm attending in Germany. I paid $100 for one with 10 months left, and had to cough for a new battery, but compared to what I'll be spending on plane tickets, hotels and jumps in Euro's, it's nothing worth mentioning. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #13 May 15, 2007 Quote So i bought a rig..as most of you know. Silly me, I didn't know. Maybe the rest of the world is not following your progress as closely as you think. Anyway, you imply that an AAD is something that you would rather not have and that you will only acquire if forced to by regulations. I realize that you have 4 whole jumps, and all of the knowledge that comes with that experience. However, the rule requireing an AAD for students is a good one, and the AAD may do more than make a hole in your wallet - it may keep you and your new rig from making a hole in the DZ. Kevin Keenan_____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildfan75 1 #14 May 15, 2007 Quote Personally, I've been limiting myself to H&Ps and solo CRW jumps... What are solo CRW jumps? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #15 May 15, 2007 Quote Quote Personally, I've been limiting myself to H&Ps and solo CRW jumps... What are solo CRW jumps? Every FAA legal skydiving container comes with two canopies for personal CRW :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildfan75 1 #16 May 15, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Personally, I've been limiting myself to H&Ps and solo CRW jumps... What are solo CRW jumps? Every FAA legal skydiving container comes with two canopies for personal CRW :-) Wow, that can get expensive. Probably cheaper to buy an AAD than it is to have to pay a rigger to repack your reserve after every jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagicGuy 0 #17 May 15, 2007 Find a way to obtain an AAD. Rentals are expensive. One thing, though. At 4 jumps, I HIGHLY doubt that your instructors will let you jump your own gear just yet. Didn't want you to be disappointed if they told you forget it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridadiver81 0 #18 May 15, 2007 I know i cant jump my rig until i graduated from aff and im cleared for self supervision. It never hurts to have it ready and waiting for when that time comes though!"Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swoopgaz 0 #19 May 16, 2007 Don't be such a tight ass and buy an aad. Is your life not worth the cost of an aad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridadiver81 0 #20 May 16, 2007 ok....i acquired an AAD. Let the thread die. Thanks!"Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbanning 0 #21 May 16, 2007 Charge it, thats what credit cards are for! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #22 May 16, 2007 Quote What are solo CRW jumps? It might be like the several solo RW jumps I've done. It's not that I couldn't get in, I just wanted to put the "open" in open accordianI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingDuck 0 #23 May 16, 2007 If you are planning on getting an AAD anyway then just do it, but if you don't think you are going to then just rent your gear until you get your license. On the other hand if your DZ charges 25+ for rent per jump then it might be cheaper just to get the AAD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridadiver81 0 #24 May 16, 2007 already have one coming "Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
