Vertifly 0 #1 August 24, 2006 Link to the Answer? What the heck kind of an answer is that? Oh, and a pretty good explanation of skydiving. Definitely written by a skydiver... http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/skydiving.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #2 August 24, 2006 I remember reading that a while back . . . those guys are on glue . . . Elmer's finest . . . "aim for water" "12 feet deep minimum" ??? Enough said . . .You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mostly_Harmless 0 #3 August 24, 2006 Even if the average person could locate a body of water I would think it would pretty hard for them to get into either a head down position or a standing position to enter the water. If I found myself outside a plane without a parachute I would look for other victims and attempt to dock on them just for the fun of it._________________________________________ www.myspace.com/termvelocity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #4 August 24, 2006 Hahahhaahahaha I loved the 12 foot part too. I thought though, doing a pencil dive from a diving board would get you at least 10 feet. Add about 100Mph to that and 12 feet is umm......death. not to mention, in a track (to find water of course) your speed is increased, then once you go head down or feet first, it's just increasing more. You're gonna hit that water well about 125mph. Geniuses! Here's another interesting article: http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/lightsaber.htm HAHAH, Thanks for that link!"When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #5 August 24, 2006 Quote not to mention, in a track (to find water of course) your speed is increased, Wrong. If you are tracking properly (flat track) , your rate of descent is decreased. With good form, your descent rate can be significantly less than your normal belly to earth fall rate.__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacketsdb23 49 #6 August 24, 2006 Actually, in a track...your vertical speed is reduced. So optimally, you would track to the water and just at the last possible moment go into a stand. I've been below 85 mph (vertical) in a track...not sure that I would want to be in this situation though.Losers make excuses, Winners make it happen God is Good Beer is Great Swoopers are crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #7 August 24, 2006 QuoteSo optimally, you would track to the water and just at the last possible moment go into a stand. Can you imagine a HIGH SPEED ENEMA ?? scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #8 August 24, 2006 QuoteI remember reading that a while back . . . those guys are on glue . . . Elmer's finest . . . "aim for water" "12 feet deep minimum" ??? Enough said . . . It must be true - it worked for David Hasseloff in Baywatch. jBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
za_skydiver 0 #9 August 24, 2006 What would i do? Put my head between my legs and kiss my ass goodbye! Seriously, What if you track like the spectre of death is on your back and try to skim like a stone across the water. If jacketsdb23 can get down to 85mph, his forward speed has got to be at least what, 50mph?Some dream of flying, i live the dream... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armour666 0 #10 August 24, 2006 aim for the most expensive object I can see, If I'm going to have a shitty day might as well make some one eilses too SO this one time at band camp..... "Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
za_skydiver 0 #11 August 24, 2006 Quoteaim for the most expensive object I can see, If I'm going to have a shitty day might as well make some one eilses too great idea! theres a guy with a lamborghini that comes to the dz sometimes (think hes with the gliding club on the airfield). Ill aim for that! Some dream of flying, i live the dream... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #12 August 24, 2006 I'm thinking of a delta maybe? I also thought a track increased speed due to the wind, or my improper form. Probably both. Thanks for the info!"When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #13 August 24, 2006 I am going to track for the thicket of pine trees... and kiss my ass good bye. No flailing, just a nice track till the end. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bradley77 0 #14 August 24, 2006 If you fall out of a plane without a parachute then you need not ride in a plane again. Perhaps they are talking about getting sucked out of an airliner or something. But if you are in a plane for skydiving and you don't have a rig on AND you jump/fall out of a plane you ought not be skydiving again....and likely won't be! The actual landing to the ground is not what kills you. It will break every bone in your body. But when you bounce up and come back down all those broken bones will be driven right into your organs. So just remember to grab the grass as hard as you can the first time you hit so that you don't bounce :)Damn, this is fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBrant 0 #15 August 24, 2006 Quote What if you fell out of an airplane without a parachute? I would die Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #16 August 24, 2006 Who's doing the video? My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #17 August 24, 2006 Just some food for thought: January 26, 1972 in History Event: Stewardess Vesna Vulovic survives 10,160m fall without parachute http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=43941 Chris"When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #18 August 24, 2006 Quote But if you are in a plane for skydiving and you don't have a rig on AND you jump/fall out of a plane you ought not be skydiving again....and likely won't be! This has happened before, so don't think it can't.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #19 August 24, 2006 was discussing this with another skydiver i met on a plane back from Cali.. we agreed if the plane 'opened up' we would both track starboard.. then at least our friends could argue over who had the best track at the wakes... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #20 August 24, 2006 That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertifly 0 #21 August 24, 2006 QuoteI loved the 12 foot part too. I thought though, doing a pencil dive from a diving board would get you at least 10 feet. Add about 100Mph to that and 12 feet is umm......death. To increase chances of survival into a body of water....(umm, it would have to be about 40 feet deep)... You would have to cup air to slow down to about 90 (if possible). Get some tunnel time, that may help. And then, at about 80 feet from impact, go into a missle-like standup - very quickly, stable, hands by your seems at about 20 feet - do it later to avoid instability when transitioning. Upon impact, wait 2 seconds and spread your body out wide to avoid descent underwater. Then, if someone sees you go in, they can help rescue you, because you will be unconscious from the shock to your body. CPR, return to conciousness, avoid further injuring your broken limbs, etc. etc. Otherwise, just do what Armour said, aim for something cool. Like the snob jumpers car at your dz who shows in his ferrari or viper, if not a beemer is always good too. Avoid planes, that just isn't cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #22 August 24, 2006 Option 1: Look around for someone who wants to try a last minute variation of a Mr. Bill. No takers? Option 2: See if the A/C is diving and try to get back in. If you do make it back in then play it off real cool like you were just trying to cool down. Option 3: I like the idea proposed about aiming for the expensive car. (Aim for the windshield and make the largest bug splat possible.)"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #23 August 24, 2006 people jump off bridges into water to kill themselves and usually succeed, and they hit well below terminal, id say track down a steep hill... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #24 August 24, 2006 You'd probably die...next topic please. Oh, I guess I'll click on the linky stuff later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #25 August 24, 2006 Take one shoe off and put it down my pants. It won't help, but it'll drive people crazy trying to figure out how it happened, and it'll give me something to focus on besides the ground. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites