Ron 10 #1 January 18, 2005 Well do you have one? Other than cutting rubber bands while packing. (Which BTW don't do...Why dull the knife on BS?) While I think they are great in theory.... I think that there are very few "live" uses of a hook knife. Please, share your stories and prove me wrong."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 January 18, 2005 QuoteWell do you have one? Other than cutting rubber bands while packing. (Which BTW don't do...Why dull the knife on BS?) While I think they are great in theory.... I think that there are very few "live" uses of a hook knife. Please, share your stories and prove me wrong. I personally know a guy that used one to cut a steering line looped over an end cell...on a reserve...on a tandem. He was REALLY happy he had it!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottMcC 0 #3 January 18, 2005 I've never used mine, but everyone I know who is a "serious" CrW-dog has whipped it out at least once. And I too know someone who took the hook knife to the reserve, although this one was following a CrW wrap--people who were at WFFC in 2002 saw the video of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #4 January 18, 2005 Outside of CRW - I suspect that the real purpose of a hook-knife is to aid the user in keeping their mind occupied while they plumet to their death under a double-mal. Yes, I carry one - and no, it's never cut a rubber band. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #5 January 18, 2005 Nope, never used mine, but I think it's an old carry over from when I jumped round reserves. I like knowing it's there, just in case I need it.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #6 January 18, 2005 QuoteWell do you have one? Other than cutting rubber bands while packing. (Which BTW don't do...Why dull the knife on BS?) While I think they are great in theory.... I think that there are very few "live" uses of a hook knife. Please, share your stories and prove me wrong. Yes, I carry one, and Yes I have used it. Never in a situation where I needed it to save my life. Only when the test plan called for it.And you are right, cutting bands, pull cords and other shit is a no no. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conquest150 0 #7 January 18, 2005 ive got one, never used it though. but someone at my dz used it this past summer. he had a spinning mal and when he cut away he said one riser didnt release(i think he jsut didnt pull the handle all the way) adn he deployed the reserve. so he had the main attached by one riser and the reserve out. it looked quite ugly from above. he used his hook knife to cut the riser on the main and landed sucessfully under his reserve. that is the only story i have for hook knives so i hope you guys enjoyed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #8 January 18, 2005 Check out the video of Tom Aeiello (sp?) with a line over on a BASE jump - he uses his trusty hook knife and all is OK. I am sure he will post a link if you ask him nicely. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #9 January 18, 2005 What is the name of the video and where is it in skydiving movies? PM if you'd like"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjiimmyyt 0 #10 January 18, 2005 I carry one as the BPA say I have to. The only time I can see using one is, as pointed out, on a line over on your reserve. I don't do CReW. (Yet). "This isn't an iron lung, people. You can actually disconnect and not die." -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #12 January 19, 2005 This isn't my story but check out Tony's story. http://dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=576175;#576175Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 January 19, 2005 Ask Tom Aiello...... he's got the best one I've heard yet....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #14 January 19, 2005 Quoting Tonto in another thread :- Chris's only injury was to his right thumb, which was badly cut when his little plastic orange "zak" knife broke in use. Lesson here is if you're in so much shit you need a hook knife to save you, carry one which stands a good chance of working when you need it. If you have a "zak" knife, give it to someone you really don't like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #15 January 19, 2005 I think it was you that pointed out to me that the new Aerodyne hook knives double as a bottle opener.. I have yet to use mine but am really looking forward to it.. chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #16 January 19, 2005 QuoteI think it was you that pointed out to me that the new Aerodyne hook knives double as a bottle opener.. I have yet to use mine but am really looking forward to it.. Hey you gotta give credit where it is due. I am the one that told you it makes a great bottle opener Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #17 January 19, 2005 QuoteQuoteI think it was you that pointed out to me that the new Aerodyne hook knives double as a bottle opener.. I have yet to use mine but am really looking forward to it.. Hey you gotta give credit where it is due. I am the one that told you it makes a great bottle opener Ohhh.. yeah.. sorry about that.. Hey.. was that the same day that you got the beer money outta the guy that hurt himself as he plowed over his grandpa? just before he got loaded into the ambulance? That was classic! chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #18 January 19, 2005 Here's one for ya. A guy deploys into a spinning mal. I think a line over. It's a tandem video jump, so he's got altitude, he goes for his hook knife to clear it (and if anyone could pull this off, it's this guy), and wouldn't you know it, years of non-use have resulted in a snap that doesn't want to let go. Cutaway, pull reserve. Land without further incident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #19 January 19, 2005 QuoteLesson here is if you're in so much shit you need a hook knife to save you, carry one which stands a good chance of working when you need it. If you have a "zak" knife, give it to someone you really don't like. Even Sunpath got rid of them! They went with the plastic knife found here---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #20 January 19, 2005 So far no one Personally has used one. Tony has and thats kinda close. We have a few "I know a guy" stories. I would venture to say that outside of CRW there is not much a use for one. And that most problems could be fixed another way."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #21 January 19, 2005 QuoteAnd that most problems could be fixed another way. True, but one could argue that *most* line twists are kicked out of...... Tom hasn't chimed in, but he used one to clear a line over on a BASE jump. I wear one on my BASE rig for the same reason. I wear one on my sport rigs for the times I do fun CRW and the line over on reserve possibility. For $7 it's cheap insurance.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakbrother 0 #22 January 19, 2005 I know a guy that had a bad deployment in a birdman jump, cutaway and pulled his reserve but his main lines had wrapped around his foot. So he ended up hanging upside down with 2 out and foot tangled. He used his hook knife to cut the main away.. . www.freak-brother.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #23 January 19, 2005 QuoteSo far no one Personally has used one. Tony has and thats kinda close. Maybe not, but you were there when I damned near died because I had lost my trusty Zak knife on the previous jump, IIRC. I performed a gunslinger cutaway to avoid having my fingers cut off by the steering line knotted around them, and landed with the main in tow so attached. That hurt. I now keep a couple of better quality hook knives on every rig. I am also careful to avoid getting caught up in lines whenever clearing my brakes, and otherwise seek to stay clear of entanglements the might require a hook knife to clear. Like a firearm, it's better to have one and not need it than to need it and not have it. When you need one, you need one badly - and it still might not be enough to turn the tide in your favor. I don't tout it as a panacea, but strongly suggest keeping an operational hook knife on hand and staying in practice with its use. Each safety procedure you have mastered serves to load the dice just a little more in your favor. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #24 January 19, 2005 QuoteI performed a gunslinger cutaway What do you mean? A canopy transfer?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #25 January 19, 2005 Okay, I don’t have a story of my own but I’ve seen the video of a guy that got his foot caught in a looped seat belt on exit and was dangling outside the door. Someone inside the plane pulled out a hook knife and cut the seatbelt. Anyone remember that one and have the link? I carry 2 hook knives and I doubt I would ever use one under canopy, my best guess is on the plane or maybe on the ground after landing. However, I’d feel better having them and not needing them than the alternative."We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
