How do Mr Bill?

[Wharewaka 0]

Hello! Any advice how to do a Mr Bill jump successfully? No tandem harness and stuff just deploying, flying a bit and then let go....
How not to injure arms etc

[peregrinerose 0]

Talk to RyanTurner on here. He's the Chambersburg Mr. Bill Whore. He even gives out t-shirts "I survived a Mr. Bill with Ryan Turner" to all of his partners. He's had some good ones and some interesting ones!

Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda

[slotperfect 7]

The Search Posts function is your friend.

Arrive Safely

John

[TaylorC 0]

i've got video of a Mr. Bill on a 90 velocity kicking around somewhere i will upload it and link it for you to see how to do one properly

Edit: Kinda shitty quality but hey its google video what can i say

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=530075350083956100

[peckerhead 0]

I could show you how in person. equipment and packing is key.

Don't listen to dorks on the internet.

[Spizzzarko 0]

Here's my advice.

Don't do it and say you did.

[JSBIRD 1]

I've got five Mr Bill jumps....all as Sluggo. My choice was always for a large main canopy for Sluggo, low exit speed and a jump pilot deployed pilot chute. Worked every time.
But, I've also seen it go badly when not properly planned.

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"Now I've settled down,
in a quiet little town,
and forgot about everything"

[chuckbrown 0]

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The Search Posts function is your friend.

Totally off topic, but I just noticed your avatar (and your sig line). You da man!

I actually saw LZ in concert in 1977. 14 years old, my pre-second concert. Man, what a show! Achilles Last Stand was unreal.

Ok, back on topic ... what JSBird said, but I'd suggest someone other than the pilot do the PC toss. Someone you trust.

Edited to add: God, this is horrible! It's coming up on 30 years since I saw that show. Ughh. Oh, well that's over, now for a bit of fun.

[hjumper33 0]

With my one (failed) attempt as Mr. Bill, ive learned a couple of things. 1. dont use a sabre1 for sluggos canopy. 2. Wrap your legs around the waist of the other person as tight as you can, its way easier than trying to take too much force with your arms. 3. Dont ease up on your grip until ALL the cells are inflated. I watched the canopy snivel, the center inflate, and then WACK!

[lippy 918]

I've got two from either side, all from 182s. We set it up on the step, with somebody holding Sluggo's PC IAD style.

We just grabbed hold as well as we could on lift webs (obviously with great care to not grab handles or knock out Sluggo's pin) and rolled off, with Mr. Bill facing the pilot and Sluggo facing the wingtip.

Did it 3 times with Mantas and 1 with a sabre 135. The Mantas are definitely the way to go if you've got a choice of the two

I got nuthin

[karenmeal 0]

I've never had a sucessful one. I always get flung away from the guy opening the parachute.

So my trial and error advice is: don't be a weak girl and try to do it on your boyfriend's crossfire 109 out of a caravan after a flip.

"Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham

[rhanold 0]

Check out the first part of this video. The canopy used is a 111 FX with the XAOS mod.

http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=5420

[phoenixlpr 0]

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Here's my advice.

Don't do it and say you did.

Cheater!

If there is no video it has never happened.

[phoenixlpr 0]

What is the right selection for the MrBill canopy?

Smaller ? Bigger? Square? Elliptical?

[Glitch 0]

I've done several Mr. Bill dives, playing both roles. The bigger the canopy the better as they tend to open a bit slower. Packing to open slower is good too. If you're really interested in a successful dive, then perhaps you can get your paws on a nice big student canopy for Sluggo...

Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born...

[phoenixlpr 0]

How about a nicely, slowly opening smaller?

[Glitch 0]

How's your upper body strength?

Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born...

[darkwing 5]

There have been some seriously uncool Mr. Bill attempts. My first advice is to not do it. My second advice is to review the horror stories and videos, and listen to people with success stories.

-- Jeff
My Skydiving History

[phoenixlpr 0]

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How's your upper body strength?

Well, I hope I have enough for the stunt.

What is bigger fun? Being the host or being the guest?

[AFFI 0]

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There have been some seriously uncool Mr. Bill attempts. My first advice is to not do it.

I'll take that advice...

[Glitch 0]

I liked being the guest more. On past jumps, I've actually climbed up and stood on the shoulders (my feet actually stepping on the insides of the risers and not on the actual shoulders...) of Sluggo, much like a CRW plane. When it was time to go, I just handed my pilot chute to Sluggo and asked him to 'hold this a sec...". Fun times, although the story should probably be told in the 'Stupid things I have done" thread.

All this being said, even though I've done more than a few back in my day, I don't think I would do another (unless of course I attended an appropriate safety briefing before hand ). There is much that can go wrong, and I've seen my fair share of it; unintentional cutaways, reserve dumps (2-outs, although it wasn't referred to as such at the time), busted nose, hand injuries, muscle pulls in arms, etc...

Whatever you decide, be safe and have fun.

Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born...

[phoenixlpr 0]

Thanks!

[AFFI 0]

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All this being said, even though I've done more than a few back in my day, I don't think I would do another (unless of course I attended an appropriate safety briefing before hand ). There is much that can go wrong, and I've seen my fair share of it; unintentional cutaways, reserve dumps (2-outs, although it wasn't referred to as such at the time), busted nose, hand injuries, muscle pulls in arms, etc...

Whatever you decide, be safe and have fun.

Worth repeating...

[phoenixlpr 0]

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All this being said, even though I've done more than a few back in my day, I don't think I would do another (unless of course I attended an appropriate safety briefing before hand ). There is much that can go wrong, and I've seen my fair share of it; unintentional cutaways, reserve dumps (2-outs, although it wasn't referred to as such at the time), busted nose, hand injuries, muscle pulls in arms, etc...

Whatever you decide, be safe and have fun.

Worth repeating...

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No pain, no gain.
I've seen the Mr Bill landed video. I would no go so far, ever.

I've just changed my mind. I was told as a student that 2 person can land under one canopy safely. Mr Bill landed is the example.

[Glitch 0]

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I was told as a student that 2 person can land under one canopy safely.

Duh... they call those "Tandems"

Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born...