aerialcameraman 0 #1 March 11, 2007 Can you tell me where the porter that was used in Greensburg for the jay stokes world record came from? What DZ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iluvtofly 0 #2 March 11, 2007 The polka dotted one? Skydive Pennsylvania Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #3 March 11, 2007 Have you got the tail number?Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #4 March 11, 2007 I believe you're refering to N19TX. http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/nnumsql.asp?NNumbertxt=19TXp. contact andri [at] winaviation [dot] com _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #5 March 11, 2007 Im pretty sure it was Deland's but I could be wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #6 March 12, 2007 I heard Deland's porter crashed a couple of years ago.Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #7 March 12, 2007 DeLand might have sent a PAC750 but their Porter crashed a while back. From what I was told, the 2 PAC's did most of the flying anyway.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peggs82 0 #8 March 12, 2007 QuoteIm pretty sure it was Deland's but I could be wrong Deffinetly Skydive Pennsylvania's. N19TX http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?distict_entry=true&aircraftsearch=Pilatus%20PC-6/B2-H2%20Turbo%20Porter&aircraft_genericsearch=Pilatus%20PC-6&airlinesearch=Untitled&placesearch=Grove%20City%20(29D)®search=N19TX&cnsearch=684 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #9 March 12, 2007 The PACs did virtually all the flying. The Porter, although in the hands of the incomparable Zing, just couldn't keep up with the 2 brand new PAC's. Zing could probably tell you the exact number of turnarounds he did, but I'd be surprised if it was more than 40 out of the 642. That wonderbread polkadot sure is fun to look at though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zing 2 #10 March 12, 2007 I think I flew that Porter about 5.5 hours and managed to just barely average 27 loads per hour, while the PACs were easily doing 28 and, once or twice, averaged 29 loads per hour. The PACs flew two-hour stints and the Porter flew one-hour turns because I couldn't carry enough fuel to fly longer. I hadn't flown like that in three years, since Jay's last record at Elsinore, and MarkMark and Bill, the PAC pilots had never done it. It took each of us a few loads to get the drill down so we could smooth and fast. Ken, the Skydive Pennsylvania pilot who flew the polka-dot porter down to Greensburg gave it his best shot, but we had too much fuel on board at first, he was struggling to get to the 2 min. 20 sec. turn times in. The nature of the flying was something he felt was a bit out of his experience. He's a hell of good pilot in his own right, and made what he considered the best call, in my opinion. It wasn't something for the faint-at-heart. The folks that really had it rough were the safety crew guys who hung on tight in the back and rode the airplanes down 641 times and never squaked about it once.Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #11 March 12, 2007 QuoteIIt wasn't something for the faint-at-heart. The folks that really had it rough were the safety crew guys who hung on tight in the back and rode the airplanes down 641 times and never squaked about it once. I'll vouch for that...I did 12 turnarounds for video [edited to add: during practice runs on Thursday] with Zing and Bill, and in spite of anything else, it was gut wrenching when they rolled over to dive back to the runway. Zing managed to get me floating a couple times. I don't know how those guys did it in such lengthy stretches. thanks for the correction on the number of loads. I guess it just didn't seem like that many Porter turnarounds happened, but there is a big diff between 40 and 90 loads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zing 2 #12 March 12, 2007 I can't belive I forgot to mention the PAC pilot Brent. He really tore up the sky with the Deland PAC and did 30 loads in one hour during one of his two-hour stints. I was refueling the Porter between my turns in the rotation somewhere past midnight when an older fellow walked up and we started talking. He told me he'd been there most of the day watching the airshow and said that it reminded him of his time in the Navy during WWII. Turns out, he was part of an anti-aircraft gun crew in the Pacific and his ship was sunk by a Kamikaze plane. A few months later, he was on a second ship that was hit by a Japanese plane. Sort of puts things in a different perspective. Nobody was shooting at us.Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #13 March 12, 2007 QuoteI can't belive I forgot to mention the PAC pilot Brent. He really tore up the sky with the Deland PAC and did 30 loads in one hour during one of his two-hour stints. I was refueling the Porter between my turns in the rotation somewhere past midnight when an older fellow walked up and we started talking. He told me he'd been there most of the day watching the airshow and said that it reminded him of his time in the Navy during WWII. Turns out, he was part of an anti-aircraft gun crew in the Pacific and his ship was sunk by a Kamikaze plane. A few months later, he was on a second ship that was hit by a Japanese plane. Sort of puts things in a different perspective. Nobody was shooting at us. I've got a great shot of him sitting at the campfire next/near to you, Zing. He gave a great interview on Jays project. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aerialcameraman 0 #14 March 13, 2007 does anyone know about the porter used in Drop Zone the movie.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iluvtofly 0 #15 March 13, 2007 As far as I know it's the same porter being talked about in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #16 March 13, 2007 I thought the one from dropzone might have been one of freefall express'. But thats just something i heard. They used to have a lot of them. Now only one. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #17 March 13, 2007 Here you can search just about all them www.pc-6.comwhere they are and who owns them and how many times it's been crashed.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #18 March 13, 2007 QuoteHere you can search just about all them www.pc-6.comwhere they are and who owns them and how many times it's been crashed. Yep, I don't think there's a single porter frame out there that hasn't been twisted at least once.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redramdriver 0 #19 March 13, 2007 same plane. differant color schemeSo, you bring your beer? Its 5 o'clock somewhere POPS #9344 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peggs82 0 #20 March 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteHere you can search just about all them www.pc-6.comwhere they are and who owns them and how many times it's been crashed. Yep, I don't think there's a single porter frame out there that hasn't been twisted at least once. Whats the line?...there are no good porter pilots...just ones who have not crashed yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #21 March 14, 2007 QuoteYep, I don't think there's a single porter frame out there that hasn't been twisted at least once. Whats the line?...there are no good porter pilots...just ones who have not crashed yet? I think that's it. It's sad but I hear all the time how an operation will have pilots they know and trust and then it goes on the road and someone has to show some new pilot how to fly a porter unbeknownst to the owner and they end up twisting it. Or a takeoff is made with the trim set in the landing position so they do a takeoff departure stall. I have heard, but don't know for sure, that you can not get insurance for porter operations flying skydivers anymore. Any porter operator want to correct that?Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
