Paintball Dogfighting???

[Skysurfer_Rob 0]

Ok, I realize this is probably a crazy stupid idea, but it sounds fun as all hell...has anyone ever tried dogfighting with paintball guns (while under canopy)? I'm guessing with all the extra gear a normal paintball gun takes, it probably hasn't been done...but has anyone thought of trying with the paintball pistols?

I would love to watch a video of this, if anyone has one.

I have no intention of trying this anytime....soon .

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[WatchYourStep 0]

I've got a few PGPs I'll loan you. Of course I'll video from the ground. Let me know how that turns out.

"You start off your skydiving career with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience up before your bag of luck runs out."

[Mostly_Harmless 0]

It would be pretty funny specially when you consider everyone will only be doing left turns.

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[Skysurfer_Rob 0]

The ace would be whoever is left handed, lol.

"Though I Fly Through the Valley of Death, I Shall Fear No Evil...For I am at 80,000 Feet and Climbing."
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[ChrisL 2]

I cant imagine anything that would be better for our sport than to have several people under canopy paying no attention to their flying

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[piisfish 140]

They will pay attention to landing when they realise the landing area is covered by paintball Flak

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[skymama 37]

I'll be interested in knowing if you still want to do this after owning your own gear.

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[Skysurfer_Rob 0]

Use my own gear...no...

Can I borrow yours?

lol

"Though I Fly Through the Valley of Death, I Shall Fear No Evil...For I am at 80,000 Feet and Climbing."
SR-71 hangar entrance sign at Kadena AFB, Japan

[MrBrant 0]

defanetly need borrowed gear!

mabye some ragged-out water jump rigs

[Zing 2]

Never got video of any of the dogfights, but here's a simple way to do it.
Each person on the dive attaches a two-foot long strip of cloth to the toes of their shoes using rubber bands.
We'd drag the exit off the plane, and on the break from a round star, the fight is on.
The idea is to get the cloth strips off your opponents and not allow your own to be taken.
Rules are simple:
1. You must stay in the fight. You can't just track or dive away from the group.
2. No one is allowed to grab/touch any part of an opponent except the cloth strips.
3. If both your streamers get taken, you are out of the fight and those out build a star.

I've done this dive with up to six individuals ... everyone is on their own, and with nine people in three squads of three. It's a blast ... and no mess from paint balls.

Zing Lurks

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Ok, I realize this is probably a crazy stupid idea

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[floridadiver81 0]

ok..this is coming from someone that plays paintball on a regular basis...at least once a month. Paintballs typically fly out of the barrel at ~300 feet per second. This varies slightly depending ont he volumn left in the co2 canister. With this..although highly unlikely considering the variables of falling under canopy there is still that chance..if one would get hit in the face at a close range its a high risk that the face mask part that protects your eyes could shatter...or the paint cover the sight side of the facemask. Not to mention it could put holes through the canopy. Just something to think about. Skydiving is already a very high risk sport. Lets not make it anymore dangerous than it already is.

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[jtval 0]

so you're saying we need asomething with more velocity? why not use a .22 ?

that will shoot straight and, well, it's not a 357

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[kkeenan 14]

I've actually thought about this also. I think the best way to do it would be this:

Paintball Combat under canopy following a high hop and pop.

1. Gun would be mounted on helmet or possibly on the thigh.

2. Gun needs to be remotely triggered by a switch that can be held in one hand, along with the steering toggle.

3. CRW experience would be helpful, because it's going to be dangerous and messy.

4. Full-face helmet should be adequate protection, since the ranges probably will not be very close.

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[dharma1976 0]

fuck the hand switch go bite switch

Dave

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[floridadiver81 0]

I still would not reccommend it. I was once told by someone that has beenin the sport for 10 years..with a break in between. Skydiving is a gret sport when done safely. I know im new to the sport but i have been absorbing ALOT of information via this board and other sources. When you start adding variables you increase the risk of something bad happeneing. Granted you have to be somewhat crazy to be in this sport ot begin with...but adding something like paintballing..just makes it a serious accident waiting to happen...i dont care how careful you are. Re-read the last 2 sentences of my last post made in this thread.

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[Oke 0]

I don't know how concered I would be about getting hit by a paintball mid-air. But more so the CO2 or HPA tank. At altitude you may run into a problem...explosive maybe?

Anyone hear of the Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act in air.

Class 1: Explosives
Class 2: Gases
through to Class 9: Miscellaneous.


All of which are prohibited. Somthing else to factor in. Legality and safety of the conister durability.

-Adam Oke

[labrys 0]

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Ok, I realize this is probably a crazy stupid idea, but it sounds fun as all hell...

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[MrBrant 0]

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Skydiving is already a very high risk sport. Lets not make it anymore dangerous than it already is.

where's the fun in that?????

[Andy_Copland 0]

That is such a cool idea

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People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

[azureriders 0]

A late and dear friend of mine had a saying that I think fits well here.

"There may be a better way of killing one self, but I can't think of one right now" G.D. Williams

[cocheese 0]

No but ever since i was about 12 i always dreamed of playing paint ball in the sky using ultra lite planes.... and some goggles like the Red Barron n shit. Way too much fun I'm guessing.

[floridadiver81 0]

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Skydiving is already a very high risk sport. Lets not make it anymore dangerous than it already is.

where's the fun in that?????

umm.....living maybe??

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[Eule 0]

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4. Full-face helmet should be adequate protection, since the ranges probably will not be very close.

That's OK, if you're only worried about your face...

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For freefall, I like Zing's idea of the streamers on the shoes. For under canopy, I wonder if a laser tag system would be marginally safer than paintball guns. There is no ammunition flying through the air and the laser tag gear can be made much smaller than the paintball gear. The laser tag gun is electronic, so it should be very easy to add a remote trigger like a bite switch.

For safety, you probably wouldn't use "off the shelf" equipment. The gun is usually fairly large, and the targets that are on your chest and back are usually on a harness that would get covered up by your rig. You'd have to make a custom gun to fit on (say) your helmet, and custom targets that could be attached to your existing harness. I am thinking maybe one target on the ouside of the BOC pouch, one target on your chest strap, and one (back) or two (front/back) targets on your helmet. Basically, places where you could easily "hide" the wires where they won't interfere with ripcords, cutaway cables, etc or be a snag hazard. Alternatively, all the pieces of hardware on one person could have wireless links (Bluetooth?) to each other. This adds more batteries and complexity (cost) to the system, but is arguably better for certain kinds of safety. You might also want to add a pressure switch that shuts the system down at (say) 1000 feet so people will pay attention to their landings, or maybe a radio that will take a "shut down now" signal from an observer on the ground.

As far as seeing where you're aiming, I think the commercial guns use an infrared LED or laser for data (this beam is coming from player #2's gun) but a visible red LED for aiming (like a tracer round). Laser tag is usually played inside a darkened room - it may be difficult to get a visible beam that is both bright enough to see in daylight and low-powered enough to be legal to use around people that aren't wearing dark glasses.

For seeing who you shot, or who shot you, the commercial systems use visible and audible feedback. The targets have blinking LEDs around them and you know you hit one when the LEDs go dark for several seconds. There is a speaker in the equipment and it makes a sound when you get hit. The commercial stuff also has an LCD on the back of the gun that says "Bob shot you in the back" or "You shot Joe on the shoulder". The LCD is probably impractical for the jump system - maybe a voice announcement would work. Also, I think some of this data is transferred over a radio channel - it's not all transmitted by the IR LED/laser. Leaving this out would make the hardware simpler, but it might not be as fun. It's easy to tell that player #3 shot you, but it's harder to tell that you shot player #4 - for complete results, you'd have to wait until you get on the ground and transfer the data from all the guns into one machine.

Eule

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