self induced line twists

[firstime 0]

I fly a sabre 2 190, wind load 1:1, if I bury one toggle and hold it for about 10 seconds could this
induce a line twist. I am sure if I let up on one and buried the other this could happen???? I know that
the larger canopies are more forgiving but there must be a threshold. I would like to try this up high
4k, but would like a little input. There are alot of talented pilots out there and i would be glad to sign
a disclaimer just for your opinion.

[AggieDave 6]

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if I bury one toggle and hold it for about 10 seconds could this
induce a line twist.

Not likely, but not impossible.

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I am sure if I let up on one and buried the other this could happen????

Yup line twists would happen possibly, did that on a 190 when I had about 50 jumps or so and spun my canopy really nicely.

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[mattjw916 2]

I have spiralled the hell out of a Sabre2 190 loaded about the same and never induced any line twists... if you want to cause a line-twist induced cutaway then stall your Sabre2 and let go of one toggle, that'll cause some nice twists.

My question is why you want to induce a mal???

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[sundevil777 102]

If you apply the turn gradually, you will not induce line twists until you really bury it.

Apply the turn quickly, or alternate your turn quickly, and you will cause twists at a more moderate amount of turn.

You should be aware of what the limits of your canopy are, at an appropriate altitude. If you let up on the toggle too late after the twists start, the steering line will be trapped/not go back up - and you will be screwed.

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***if you want to cause a line-twist induced cutaway then stall your Sabre2 and let go of one toggle


Was not my intention, read the question again

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Thanks Dave

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Thanks Cliff

[mattjw916 2]

I guess you couldn't grasp the sarcasm there...

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[crzjp20 0]

i have spun a mavarone 244 into line twist before..... it was crazy.... concidering how freaking huge itis!

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[mjosparky 4]

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I have spiralled the hell out of a Sabre2 190 loaded about the same and never induced any line twists... if you want to cause a line-twist induced cutaway then stall your Sabre2 and let go of one toggle, that'll cause some nice twists.

My question is why you want to induce a mal???

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[nael 0]

I induced line twists on my PD 170 (wl abouy 0.8:1) on my first jump on it. Buried a toggle, let it up fast, and buried the oposite one. I'd always done this on the bigger canopies I jumped, but evidently my 170 doesnt like it. We get along fine now, but it scared the hell outta me on that first jump!

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[mattjw916 2]

wow, you people really do believe everything you read...

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[skydiverton 0]

Pulling one toggle completely down or making radical left-right movements can bring trouble (Like uncontrolled steering in a car) with any canopy also the lower wingloads. It's easier for me to twist a sabre 170 than a stiletto 107

Very quick steering input does not improve your turning rate. Feel how the canopy reacts when you steer.

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[gus 1]

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I know that the larger canopies are more forgiving

Actually I think the larger canopies may be more susceptible to self induced twists because of the longer lines. These self induced twists occur because the canopy turns but you don't. I did it on a Quadra 150 at about 30 or 40 jumps and scared myself quite a bit .

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I would like to try this up high 4k, but would like a little input.

Be careful!

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[JohnMitchell 16]

Do it at the end of your repack cycle and do it high enough to chop.

[mjosparky 4]

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wow, you people really do believe everything you read...

Does that mean that everything you are posting is a lie?

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[mattjw916 2]

could be...

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[Fast 0]

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I guess you couldn't grasp the sarcasm there...

Sarcasm transfers VERY poorly in text on the internet.

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[Maxim 0]

This weekend i was flying a Saber 190.. i flared the canopy and then buried one toggle and let the other up. it actually put me into spinning line twists.. got 2 twists in the lines before i kicked outta them. bit of a wake up call but i done this at 4,000 feet.

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[mattjw916 2]

lol... I'm glad you did that up high...

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[firstime 0]

I originally posted this question as a real concern because of some of the things I have read or heard.
I DO respect the advice that I get from my fellow skydivers but it's always a little comforting to hear from 100's or 1000's of other's. The answers I recieved were not something I already knew the answer to. If I offended mattjw, I am sorry.
The answers that most gave me were invaluable because you have been there and done that. My inquiry was genuine and if your advice (the forum)
could avoid just one incident; "thumbs up brother"
thats why we are here for each other.

Your the best,
Blue skies

[skaterboi 0]

nice one firsttime

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