CSpenceFLY 1 #1 December 8, 2006 Inspired by the jump number thread.Feel free to expound on your answers.Please leave out the "get the rigger in trouble argument".Your rigger keeps records,this is not going to happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #2 December 8, 2006 My answer is no either way (AFAIK, anyway), but to clarify what you're asking ... Are you asking if I have actually done the pencil whipping (forging my rigger's name on the card) or if I have asked my rigger to do it for me (having them sign my reserve card as having repacked it even though they have not)?"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #3 December 8, 2006 no........hahahaha........no......oh damn bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #4 December 8, 2006 What if I'm my own rigger.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #5 December 8, 2006 Umm, no, of course not... But...if I ever did I would only pencil pack my own rig, and it would have had to have been in my possession the entire duration of the packjob. If it would have gotten wet/damp, or suffered anything abnormal I would open right away to air and inspect it. Oh, and if I were going to pencil pack my own gear I would do an actual repack every 365 days or so.Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #6 December 8, 2006 nope! I always use a penPete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #7 December 8, 2006 Strange to read this thread and place context. Uh.... that's right. This thread is directed at non riggers..."Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UDSkyJunkie 0 #8 December 8, 2006 Funny story... I know a guy who went to another DZ, and then realized his rig was out of date, so he pencil packed it in the car, and went up to manifest. They thought it was odd that his rig was last packed in april of 2004, and previous to that in september of 2004 (this was in like june of '05). He had written down the wrong year on his pencil pack! I've never pencil-packed myself, but I've been solicted to do it for someone else (i'm a rigger), and even offered the $50 I would get to really pack it. And I've been met with irritaiton when I've refused."Some people follow their dreams, others hunt them down and beat them mercilessly into submission." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #9 December 8, 2006 Wait a minute, last time we talked you were going to kill/beat up/turn on/...........wait that's right you were going to pull the reserve if someone pencil packed with you name............ love ya manKevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #10 December 8, 2006 Yea thats right, so I dumped my reserve and punch myself in the mouth....you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #11 December 8, 2006 QuoteYea thats right, so I dumped my reserve and punch myself in the mouth.... didya get video ? bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #12 December 8, 2006 Hell no them video guy always over charge, bunch of ripoffs they are, I tell ya...you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowpull 0 #13 December 8, 2006 hmmmmmm,, really Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #14 December 8, 2006 Long, long ago, in 1992, I had a malfunction on a rig that had it's last repack in the 1980's. I think it was 3 years and 2 months out of date. (We have a 6 month repack cycle.) It worked fine, but opened very hard. No, never pencil packed it. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #15 December 8, 2006 You might find time for packing your own reserve. Acn it be more simple? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
recovercrachead 0 #16 December 8, 2006 I new a rigger that would sign your card for the weekend if its out of date but would want it at the end of the weekend so you could still jump.Track high, Pull LOW!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #17 December 8, 2006 Nope, but I've jumped some that were seriously out of date (inadvertantly, of course)I am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #18 December 8, 2006 QuoteLong, long ago, in 1992, I had a malfunction on a rig that had it's last repack in the 1980's. I think it was 3 years and 2 months out of date. (We have a 6 month repack cycle.) t A very long time ago at an unamed dropzone I was jumping student gear as my brand new Unit had a broken steering line. As luck would have it the XL30 main exploded on opening......tore the lateral band in two. I popped the capewells and cutaway, did my best to stable out and dumped the belly reserve. When I got back to the dz...it was a long walk....one of the pseudo rigger/instructors told me the DZO was gonna be pissed.....that particular reserve had been one of his display rigs and had been packed for like 5 years. I asked the dumbass why they had given it to me. All I got was a blank stare. Boy I fucked em though....I didnt pay the 5 dollar gear rental. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #19 December 8, 2006 So I get a PM from some guy asking me why I would make a post like this.Pet peeve number one,taking something to PM that is nothing personal or private.Then he does not even explain his objection,just asks why I would do such a thing.Kind of like I should know better.Well,I don't,I'm at a loss.Maybe he thinks the newbies don't know about such things.How long were you in the sport before you knew what a pencil pack was? If your going to call me out,do it in public.I can take it.Or at least explain yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VincentVL. 0 #20 December 8, 2006 QuoteSo I get a PM from some guy asking me why I would make a post like this.Pet peeve number one,taking something to PM that is nothing personal or private.Then he does not even explain his objection,just asks why I would do such a thing.Kind of like I should know better.Well,I don't,I'm at a loss.Maybe he thinks the newbies don't know about such things.How long were you in the sport before you knew what a pencil pack was? If your going to call me out,do it in public.I can take it.Or at least explain yourself. Private messages...serious business. We don't need to know really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RB_Hammer 0 #21 December 8, 2006 QuoteMaybe he thinks the newbies don't know about such things.How long were you in the sport before you knew what a pencil pack was? As a newbie, I just learned what a pencil pack is. I do appreciate all of the information, and entertainment, I am getting from the forums here. I know I will be looking at the repack dates on all of the rigs I jump. Any way I can really tell if it was actually packed on the date recorded?"I'm not lost. I don't know where I'm going, but there's no sense in being late." Mathew Quigley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #22 December 8, 2006 QuoteAny way I can really tell if it was actually packed on the date recorded? Only if you stood there and watched it get packed. But MOST riggers really do the work and don't just go around pencil whip'n rigs, jumpers on the other hand do, so your more likely to find this with borrowed gear not rental rigs.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #23 December 8, 2006 Of course i have, But i told the rigger i did it and gave the rigger the 50 dollars to pack it the following week-end. On another note, I used to have a rigger that would forget to put the seal on the reserve. It wasn't just one reserve it happened quite a lot. When going to a beach boogie i had to get my reserve repacked by a rigger down there because of this fuck up.http://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #24 December 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteLong, long ago, in 1992, I had a malfunction on a rig that had it's last repack in the 1980's. I think it was 3 years and 2 months out of date. (We have a 6 month repack cycle.) t A very long time ago at an unamed dropzone I was jumping student gear as my brand new Unit had a broken steering line. As luck would have it the XL30 main exploded on opening......tore the lateral band in two. I popped the capewells and cutaway, did my best to stable out and dumped the belly reserve. When I got back to the dz...it was a long walk....one of the pseudo rigger/instructors told me the DZO was gonna be pissed.....that particular reserve had been one of his display rigs and had been packed for like 5 years. I asked the dumbass why they had given it to me. All I got was a blank stare. Boy I fucked em though....I didnt pay the 5 dollar gear rental. I had a similar experience a long time ago at a dropzone far, far away..... After a malfunction and reserve ride on a borrowed rig I checked the card and discovered it had not been re-packed in over 4 years. But, it opened just fine anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflychris 0 #25 December 8, 2006 Its funny that the poll is almost 50/50 but every one is saying they have never done it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
