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QuoteI am confused too...
PC out - DBag out - in BURBLE???
I have never heard of this malfunction before.
Elaborate please?-
Too weird - the deployment bag is always in your burble as the p/c, several feet above extracts it and lifts it away. As you did eventually get the main to clear the bag, this was NOT a baglock. Logic would seem to say the p/c wasn't exerting enough drag.
While I have to confess an admiration for your extracting and throwing out your deployment bag, it really was the wrong move, especially at your experience level. It could very well have cost you your life. What you were doing is something we call "improvised rigging" and it's killed a lot of jumpers more experienced than you. (Please note - I'm trying to sound really rational with you and I'm not in the least bit angry - just deeply concerned.) A number of other replies have focused on the possiblility of a worn out p/c, or else a p/c kill line (good name) that was not properly set during packing. Not being a rigger and not having seen your gear, and going only on the description provided, it sounds as though the pilot chute was simply not providing the necessary drag, for whatever reason.
This is a malfunction and you can't mess around with it. Pull your handles, both of them. Your p/c is out, your container is open, but your bag won't get off your back for whatever reason. And the ground is not taking time out, it's still coming at you, 120 mph. This is no time for you to improvise a fix for your main, which is plainly not working as designed. GET RID OF IT AND PULL SILVER. Pull red, pull silver. Tell war stories about your first reserve ride and live to jump another day.
Also, whether you do your own packing or hire a packer, it's YOUR responsibility to make sure 3 things are done. YOU are responsible to make sure the kill line on your pilot chute is set, your brakes are stowed, and your slider is re-opened. If you don't do it, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Packers are paid by the job and they can get "busy". It only takes a minute or two to do these three things and they effect your life, so make sure you do them, every time.
And PLEASE don't mess with malfunctions like this, it's what your handles are made for.
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jarrodh 0
Idk how else to explain it but the dbag hit the burble and fell onto my back and maybe then got stuck in my container after it landed on my back. It wasnt a baglock but it was more of a stuck bag. I pulled it loose and once on the ground we checked out all of the rig for problems and found none. My instructor who saw and confirmed all of this said it was a rare freak occurrence and that if I jumped 10,000 times in my life chances are id never see or have that kind of malfunction again. Weird!
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I don't think most/any student gear has a kill line PC.
Suavel 0
I had a baglock on my first Hop-n-Pop. I've told this before but it was jump 5 or 6 and I hopped and didn't bring in my left arm when I went to pull the ripcord. Not bringing my arm in sent me tumbling and the spring-loaded pilot chute went through my legs and wrapped one wrap around my right leg. I thought "oh shit" and kickd it off but it was just flopping around(at least that's what it looked like to me, in hindsight I probably didn't give it time to catch air), so I cut it.
Never did find that parachute...It landed still in the bag in a big area of brambles. Looked for that thing for two weeks.
Never did find that parachute...It landed still in the bag in a big area of brambles. Looked for that thing for two weeks.
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QuoteThe dbag hit the burble and fell onto my back and maybe then got stuck in my container after it landed on my back(???)
What?
QuoteMy instructor who saw and confirmed all of this said it was a rare freak occurrence and that if I jumped 10,000 times in my life chances are id never see or have that kind of malfunction again.
A rare freak occurrence?
Quoteinsert flying saucers here
So what exactly was your malfunction?
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Is your instructor a dz.commer? maybe he can log on and help us understnad what he witnessed. we are allll so curious!
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jarrodh 0
no my instructor isnt a dz.commer and I guess I cant really explain what happened that well to my lack of visual to my own back and my low jump numbers. All I can say is that I lived and Im ready to jump anytime anywhere.
(What I really wanted from this forum was someone elses story of a low timer malfunction)
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(What I really wanted from this forum was someone elses story of a low timer malfunction)
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if you knew the d bag was out, but stuck, chopping/silver is scary - that dbag isn't going anywhere.
It may, or it may not. But at least it is what I know how to do, because I was taught this, and practiced it so many times. I have never practiced kicking spinning dbag out of my way, and I suspect I would suck in it. A high-speed malfunction is definitely not a time to learn a new skill.
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But my shoulder cringes at the scenario you suggest. Could that result in amputation?
I don't know, however the chance of getting at least shoulder dislocation seems to be really high.
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labrys 0
QuoteI don't think most/any student gear has a kill line PC.
All of ours does and AFAIK we use pretty standard gear. Infinity student rigs.
Except when they're set up for static line, of course. But... we don't do many S/L jumps.
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I had a financial malfunction after my first jump course... 
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Dont forget in this case to look above you by turning your head and shoulder to let the wind go by your body to clear your burble. Everyone should of learned this on there first jump.
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Either way, getting your hands near a load of deploying lines behind your back sounds like bad ju-ju to me.
He should have tilted his body to get airflow over his back. That should have lifted the bag off without him having to use his arms.
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